Comments on: How we frame the Proclamation is homophobic https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2019/04/09/how-we-frame-the-proclamation-is-homophobic/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Tue, 09 Apr 2019 17:58:21 +0000 hourly 1 By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2019/04/09/how-we-frame-the-proclamation-is-homophobic/comment-page-1/#comment-233358 Tue, 09 Apr 2019 17:58:21 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=3762#comment-233358 In reply to A2Z.

Taking the position that it‘s others how your words are interpreted is a way to abdicate responsibility. It’s a way for people to justify being able to say whatever they want.

If your words are potentially hurtful, it’s on you to learn why and to do better to change your rhetoric.

Nothing left to fight for? Gay Americans won the right to marry less than 4 years ago. Trans people still don’t have full access to health care. Indigenous people are still systematically oppressed. People of colour are still incarcerated at higher rights than white people. Women are still raped at higher rates than men and most of their rapists are never prosecuted. Poor people still have to fight just to get a raise.

We are far from living in an equal society.

Your last sentence doesn’t even make sense. You say there is nothing left to fight for, but then you claim that some groups are fighting to be more equal. If you’re not yet equal, then there is still more to fight for.

Yes, sometimes others getting more rights infringes on the rights of others, but the opposite is also true: maintaining the current rights of some infringes on the rights of others. Rather than having the current system, where some groups have more rights than others, we can work toward a system where all groups have the same rights, even if that means some groups lose their current privilege.

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By: A2Z https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2019/04/09/how-we-frame-the-proclamation-is-homophobic/comment-page-1/#comment-233357 Tue, 09 Apr 2019 15:58:26 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=3762#comment-233357 I am not sure that I see the covertness but I only went to an LDS church for two years. I am not a big fan of guessing how people will interpret my words. I know what I mean and what I said, if you take it some other way then that is on you… and I am not a big fan of people fighting for equal rights when the western world basically supports 100% acceptance. There is nothing left to fight for but groups take up the mantle to fight for something special, making them more equal, and often infringe on others’s rights in order to expand theirs.

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