Comments on: Changes in the Lethbridge Alberta Stake https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2010/06/13/changes-in-the-lethbridge-alberta-stake/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2010/06/13/changes-in-the-lethbridge-alberta-stake/comment-page-1/#comment-228715 Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:07:30 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2328#comment-228715 In reply to thomas fines.

Can you be more specific, Thomas? I’m not sure where here I’ve been unkind.

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By: thomas fines https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2010/06/13/changes-in-the-lethbridge-alberta-stake/comment-page-1/#comment-228714 Wed, 15 Jun 2016 07:26:14 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2328#comment-228714 Jude 49, you might couch some of your own words with kindness….

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By: jude49 https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2010/06/13/changes-in-the-lethbridge-alberta-stake/comment-page-1/#comment-222751 Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:06:05 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2328#comment-222751 Kim, I would hoped for a more compassionate and kind response…Poor grammar and punctuation has nothing to do with it. This gentleman was trying hard to express his feelings. Some missionaries, although they have the best intentions, do offend. An apology goes a long way….

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By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2010/06/13/changes-in-the-lethbridge-alberta-stake/comment-page-1/#comment-218143 Wed, 21 May 2014 22:04:17 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2328#comment-218143 In reply to Andy B.

Uh…ok.

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By: Andy B https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2010/06/13/changes-in-the-lethbridge-alberta-stake/comment-page-1/#comment-218142 Wed, 21 May 2014 17:29:01 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2328#comment-218142 Narrow mindedness and the belief that only ones own opinion is valid and that other points of view need not or never be acknowledged seems to pervade LDS and evangelical Christian thinking. One reason I no longer am a member of any church.

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By: Dale B https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2010/06/13/changes-in-the-lethbridge-alberta-stake/comment-page-1/#comment-218030 Wed, 23 Apr 2014 05:27:24 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2328#comment-218030 No arguments need to happen at all…Pray and ask Him who knows..pretty simple….

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By: Log https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2010/06/13/changes-in-the-lethbridge-alberta-stake/comment-page-1/#comment-217759 Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:58:59 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2328#comment-217759 In reply to jude49.

Matthew 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

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By: jude49 https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2010/06/13/changes-in-the-lethbridge-alberta-stake/comment-page-1/#comment-217758 Mon, 01 Apr 2013 05:14:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2328#comment-217758 Kim, your response is unacceptable. LDS missionaries can be offensive. I am a believing LDS, but we are told to be kind. The missionaries need to have left. This gentleman does not want them there. And you, Kim, remember to be like Christ…kind.

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By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2010/06/13/changes-in-the-lethbridge-alberta-stake/comment-page-1/#comment-217165 Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:19:17 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2328#comment-217165 In reply to D. Carlson.

Maybe they were upset by your poor grammar and punctuation.

Regardless, missionaries are led by a mission president. Try contacting him.

http://www.mission.net/canada/calgary/missioninfo.php

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By: D. Carlson https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2010/06/13/changes-in-the-lethbridge-alberta-stake/comment-page-1/#comment-217163 Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:26:13 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2328#comment-217163 Hi, I’m trying to find the Lethbridge President email address to lobby a complaint against 2 missionaries who came tracting to my house on Saturday, July 21, 2012, but I can’t find anything online. Do you have it possibly? If so, please forward it to me so I can file my complaint with them….

My complaint is this, they have no clue what they are teaching and they got mad at me. I was relaxing in my home on Saturday and they knocked at the door. It appeared that they were looking for some common ground whereby to go into the book of mormon, as they asked me if I believed in Jesus. The problem is that when I told them that the book of mormon has been proven false by every scientist outside of BYU, based on the fact that there is NO Jewish d.n.a. from the period when the book claims that Lehi left Jerusalem and Lamanite d.n.a. became the ancestors of the Native Indians (lamanites). They had NO clue about this. I couldn’t believe that old men in Salt Lake city calling themselves prophets and apostles would send these teenagers out like this!! It appalled me! I told these 2 young guys that they have only been taught white-washed versions of what the SLC leaders want them to believe, but they are filled with 1/2 truths and also with all-out deceptions and lies past and present. I pleaded for them to research all possible avenues of information, not only Mormon from the mormon book Church History, and Journal of Discourses as a good place to start, but all kinds of non Mormon avenues. Mormonthink.com has incredible truthful information that is never taught in these missionaries buildings. Yet they are coming out trying to tell me this! They said they would NOT read the website I offered, although failed to discuss the Mormon literature I had offered, but that I should go to LDS.org. They were very angry when they said this. I told them I already have all that information as I have read it. Then they got mad at ME!! They come to my house when I’m relaxing on a Saturday afternoon after a hard week of work, then they proceed to tell me things they have no clue about and then they get mad at ME for telling them that they are uneducated about that which they are speaking and trying to tell me about the book of mormon when it has been proven false by science. It upset me that 2 punks were trying to push their beliefs on my doorstep and got mad at ME for not believing them!! They want me to go on their website and research their information, and yet they will not go and research any of my information; yet they are the ones coming to my door. What nerve! What complete social ignorance! What are you people putting out on the streets!!! I was not surprised that they did not know that Joseph Smith was polyandrous, as a matter of fact, they didn’t even know what the word meant!! In their own history Mormon books there is ample evidence that on occasions Smith sent men out to foreign countries to preach while he married their wives. In a few cases these men came back and were not surprisingly upset! These 2 punks left angry and I was also very angry, because of their complete and utter pushiness on my doorstep and disrespect for anything that disagrees with them. THEY came to me – I did not go to them.

It would be like me showing up at your sunday meeting and go into your building and start preaching and then get mad at you for not agreeing with me. How absurd!! These 2 kids tried to tell me they know it’s true by feelings. I explained that they were raised from an infant and told it was true. They conformed to that teaching out of social belief and cultural obedience out of fear of not obeying and lack of rewards. The mind and emotions then conform to give them any kind of feeling to support it. I can get feelings from watching a t.v. show and this simply means that I feel emotional about something for a myriad reasons. As a matter of fact, the Mormon PR media company has a specific program they use to stir people’s emotions. They call it heartfelt, or heart sense or some other such insane name. This is not ethical or upright in my opinion, but then again, I have apparently got a different set of values and ethics, which I prefer to keep! I told these 2 boys that this isn’t “knowing” this is emotional programming.

I went pretty easy on them, but next time I’m going to come at them with both barrels. The nerve!!

I want these Mormon leaders to keep these pushy punks away from my doorstep or next time I’m just going to phone the police!

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