Comments on: Thinking about Gospel Doctrine Lesson 32 https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/08/17/thinking-about-gospel-doctrine-lesson-32/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:17:28 +0000 hourly 1 By: BCBill https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/08/17/thinking-about-gospel-doctrine-lesson-32/comment-page-1/#comment-121542 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:17:28 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2096#comment-121542 Hi Financial Analyst

Good ideas and I guess all I really require in a GD teacher is someone who actually prepares for the lesson. I want someone who doesn’t have the the lesson manual in their hands, reading from it, throughout the lesson. If they’ve done some preparing, in our adult Sunday School, the class members will participate and hop into a discussion so it works.

I am glad to hear that you’ve had 2 good teachers in a row, that is a bonus.

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By: Financial analyst https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/08/17/thinking-about-gospel-doctrine-lesson-32/comment-page-1/#comment-121541 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:09:10 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2096#comment-121541 your lessons not quite so challenging?
No disrespect intended.
I love the deep stuff. It really makes me think, and I seem to learn so much more, so much easier. I know that’s not the way with all. We just went from having a series of less challenging Gospel Doctrine teachers, to having an ABSOLUTLY WONDERFUL and inspired teacher who I’ve heard was over the heads of some, even though a lot of people really liked his lessons. And now we have an equally wonderful, and inspired teacher who is trying very hard to live up to the former teacher. He doesn’t need to, IMO. He just needs to be himself. I do like this new teacher, but I can tell that he is struggling to keep those of us who really enjoyed the previous teacher, while at the same time not going quite as deep for the others.

So what type of Gospel Doctrine teacher do you prefer?

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By: BCBill https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/08/17/thinking-about-gospel-doctrine-lesson-32/comment-page-1/#comment-121529 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:38:44 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2096#comment-121529 I agree Kim, but what they have “learned” is the standard, dare I say it “romanticized” version of the Martyrdom. I think we need to pull them back to the reality a bit and discuss how it was that people could hate so much.

For anyone who wants to take a look I have now posted Lesson 32 on my blog (click on link up above) and you can see what it looks like at this moment, comments and ideas appreciated.

I have followed, more or less the outline above and have decided to have a debate (in a very mild sense — really more of a discussion from a point of view) looking at the idea that Joseph has done more for salvation save Jesus. We are going to look at the heads of various dispensations and see how Joseph in fact compares. So for example it is fairly clear to me that without Adam you don’t have salvation at all so he seems pretty important to me.

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By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/08/17/thinking-about-gospel-doctrine-lesson-32/comment-page-1/#comment-121527 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:32:34 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2096#comment-121527 m really not sure how I will be approaching this lesson. I imagine everyone in the class has learned ad naseum regarding the Martyrdom. I can’t imagine I would teach them anything new and practical.</p> ]]> I’m really not sure how I will be approaching this lesson. I imagine everyone in the class has learned ad naseum regarding the Martyrdom. I can’t imagine I would teach them anything new and practical.

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By: Bill Atkinson https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/08/17/thinking-about-gospel-doctrine-lesson-32/comment-page-1/#comment-121526 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:07:10 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2096#comment-121526 Ah Jeff you do ask the tough questions. The short answers is that I wouldn’t bring it up with either teenagers or adults BUT if the question were asked directly I would answer. I admit I would try to put some spin on it for much the same reasons that I suspect Joseph did, first it was a sacred ordinance connected to the temple and second it was clearly irritating to the world and the less they knew the better. I admit that it does show that the prophet was willing to lie (there is no better word for it) in public to protect the Church.

it is a tough one and I suspect the discussion could go on for a long time in a blog but I would shut it down as fast as I could in class.

CS Eric, thanks for that thought, in a youth class especially if it is relatively small (mine is about 12 max but that varies of course) you really can develop a learning place, instead of waiting for the teacher to ask all the questions and bring all resources they start doing some of it, very exciting to be in.

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By: CS Eric https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/08/17/thinking-about-gospel-doctrine-lesson-32/comment-page-1/#comment-121522 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:39:45 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2096#comment-121522 Bill,

I think your first principle is the single most important difference between good teachers and bad ones in the Church. If your goal is to teach, then that best happens if you concentrate your focus on the important parts/principles of the lesson. If you just want to cover the material, I don’t think it gives students a chance to really learn anything–the “mile wide and inch deep” approach.

I don’t teach GD now, but when I did, I spent more time developing real questions that helped the class see why the principles were important, rather than the “Sunday School” answers. I like your idea of putting things in context. Until I learned more of the background like you describe, I couldn’t answer the question of “Why would anybody want to kill Joesph Smith?” In the New Testament, we learn why the mobs wanted to kill Christ, but we rarely learn at Church why the mobs wanted to kill Joseph.

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By: Jeff Milner https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/08/17/thinking-about-gospel-doctrine-lesson-32/comment-page-1/#comment-121521 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:38:14 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2096#comment-121521 Do you go so far as to point out that Joseph denied he was practicing polygamy?

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