Comments on: Why baptism was instituted. https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/07/29/why-baptism-was-instituted/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:22:47 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymous https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/07/29/why-baptism-was-instituted/comment-page-1/#comment-121357 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:05:26 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2064#comment-121357 What about both live baptism and baptism for the dead reminding us of the resurrection? Isn’t that the message of the scripture Kim quotes?

“Come forth out of the water is in the likeness of the resurrection of the dead”

]]> By: Geoff J https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/07/29/why-baptism-was-instituted/comment-page-1/#comment-121349 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:45:03 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2064#comment-121349 I read the scripture and it looks like circular logic to me. So I assume it is just a minor error in this letter Joseph wrote. Baptism for the living was not instituted to remind us of baptism for the dead. That is ludicrous. Rather, baptism for the dead was instituted to help those who missed the opportunity to be baptized while living.

]]> By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/07/29/why-baptism-was-instituted/comment-page-1/#comment-121348 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:45:27 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2064#comment-121348 t know. The Bible isn’t very clear which came first.</p> <p>Even so, you’re sounding very much like you think I am making this stuff up. Did you read the scripture I quoted?</p> ]]> Actually, I don’t know. The Bible isn’t very clear which came first.

Even so, you’re sounding very much like you think I am making this stuff up. Did you read the scripture I quoted?

]]> By: Geoff J https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/07/29/why-baptism-was-instituted/comment-page-1/#comment-121345 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:36:02 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2064#comment-121345 Uhhh…

Kim, are you saying that the ordinance of baptism for the dead (by proxy) existed existed prior to the ordinance of baptizing living people? It sure seems that way to me.

If that were true (and it isn’t as far as I know) then this sentence of yours might make sense: “the reason baptism was developed is to remind us of baptism for the dead”.

]]> By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/07/29/why-baptism-was-instituted/comment-page-1/#comment-121343 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:15:49 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2064#comment-121343

you are saying that the reason baptism was developed is to remind us of baptism.

No, I am saying the reason baptism was developed is to remind us of baptism for the dead. They are completely different ordinances.

That is circular if I ever saw it.

I’m just restating what Joseph Smith already said.

]]> By: Geoff J https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/07/29/why-baptism-was-instituted/comment-page-1/#comment-121341 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:11:16 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2064#comment-121341 Well you are saying that the reason baptism was developed is to remind us of baptism.

“But never had I realized that baptism was specifically developed to form a strong connection to baptism of the dead.”

That is circular if I ever saw it.

]]> By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/07/29/why-baptism-was-instituted/comment-page-1/#comment-121309 Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:09:22 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2064#comment-121309 How so? Do you think baptism of the dead was instituted to help us remember live baptisms?

]]> By: Geoff J https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2009/07/29/why-baptism-was-instituted/comment-page-1/#comment-121308 Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:53:35 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=2064#comment-121308 Sort of circular logic don’t you think?

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