Mormon or not, Kirby Heyborne wiggling his posterior while Mr. T casts aspersions on his manhood just doesn’t strike me as funny. But that’s just me.

I am sorry it appeared I was accusing you of being self righteous, but I wasn’t quite sure what that quote had to do with people retaining the right to accuse Kirby of what he is doing. I see it more as telling us what we should be doing.

Yes, Elder Oaks is there to counsel us, I agree and again I am sorry, honestly my comments weren’t at you, as at previous people who have gone off on him and feel justified in doing so. Honestly, I am not even close to being perfect, and I am not trying to show myself being better than others because I defended him. I would do the same for anyone else because I feel this strongly. I have much to work on in my own life and worrying about Kirby being in a beer commercial feels more like a mote versus beam argument. When it comes to the judgment I won’t be asked what Kirby did or didn’t do, I will be asked what I did or didn’t do (or said, or thought) and so life is too short to get on his case.

Whether I disagree with his choice privately? Well, perhaps, but I still see it as not my business. I have a tendency to sigh a bit when well known members do something publicly that doesn’t reflect well on the church, but not so much about their right to do it as they are reflecting the image.

I have to admit I find the Mr T commercial funny.

Jesus Christ had something to say about that.

Am I my brother’s keeper? Yes, to lift up and comfort and help, not to tell him he is going to hell because he made a choice he should not have. Do I have a responsibility towards my children to teach them the right way to go? Yes. But Kirby is not my child, and my stewardship is not over him.

I would suggest he is not under your stewardship either.

Here are a few quotes from it:

“Christian standards should also apply to those who earn a living by selling or advertising products in the marketplace…

“Sister Oaks called my attention to a similar example in the world of advertising. The magazine Womens Sports and Fitness does not accept cigarette ads, thus foregoing much-needed revenue. A woman columnist and physician, Dr. Joan Ullyot, praised this policy and contrasted it to the practice of another organization:

’I am dismayed that a prominent womens sport, tennis, continues to take support from a cigarette company. Surely the top women in this sport, none of whom smoke, have the [courage] to say no to this hypocrisy and stop lending their names and prestige to sanction and glamorize a lethal product. Any role model in sport who accepts support or sponsorship from a company whose products destroy health and fitness should take a hard look at what she is, by association, endorsing’(Womens Sports and Fitness, Sept. 1986, p. 12).

“Wouldn’t it be wonderful if this same attitude of looking after the interests of others governed Latter-day Saints who are making a profit from the sale or promotion of alcoholic beverages? Consider the terrible effects of alcohol. Alcohol-related accidents are the leading cause of death of those under twenty-five. The physical, social, and financial effects of alcohol ruin marriages and family life. By dulling inhibitions, alcohol leads to untold numbers of crimes and moral transgressions. Alcohol is the number one addictive drug in our day.

“The consumption of alcohol is increasing among youth. Targeting young audiences, advertisers portray beer and wine as joyful, socially desirable, and harmless. Producers are promoting new types of alcoholic beverages as competitors in the huge soft-drink market. Grocery and convenience stores and gas stations stock alcoholic beverages side by side with soda pop. Can Christians who are involved in this commerce be indifferent to the physical and moral effects of the alcohol from which they are making their profits?”

“Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints should not be involved in employment or other activities upon which they cannot conscientiously ask the blessings of the Lord.”