Comments on: Lamanitic Curse https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/05/16/lamanitic-curse/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Mon, 19 May 2008 04:36:58 +0000 hourly 1 By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/05/16/lamanitic-curse/comment-page-1/#comment-53640 Mon, 19 May 2008 04:36:58 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=1343#comment-53640 Some church leaders with a fair amount of clout and influence,including some from the founding families of the LDS, really do believe that dark refers to being literally dark skinned.

There ya go – that’s a bit more precise. =)

]]>
By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/05/16/lamanitic-curse/comment-page-1/#comment-53578 Mon, 19 May 2008 01:18:15 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=1343#comment-53578

The church leaders really do believe that dark refers to dark skinned.

I believe you meant “Some church leaders really do believe that dark refers to dark skinned.”

I’m sure many believe it’s literal.

]]>
By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/05/16/lamanitic-curse/comment-page-1/#comment-53576 Mon, 19 May 2008 00:51:27 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=1343#comment-53576 The church leaders really do believe that dark refers to dark skinned. None other than Spencer W. Kimball stated as much.

Kimball made the following comments and the church published them. I assume that would mean they agreed with them.

“I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people … The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.

“At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl—sixteen—sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp. 922-23).

]]>
By: Anonymous https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/05/16/lamanitic-curse/comment-page-1/#comment-53345 Sat, 17 May 2008 07:53:27 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=1343#comment-53345 Good stuff, Kim.

I actually think the dark skin is figurative. Analagous to the ‘flint heart’ they also receive. I think it is the opposite of having Christ’s image emerge in one’s countenance, rather than the opposite of being racially white. I think this is a better explanation for the Nephite abhorrance that limits intermingling between groups. I think the use of white, delightsome, on one hand, and dark and loathsome on the other hand are to do with this.

I give as exhibit one, James E Faust, espeically in his older years.
I give as exhibit two, fellow Caucasian Ron Jeremy. (be careful looking up images.)

~

]]>