Queer Mormon poet with radical political views. I have been married 27 years, and we have 6 children. Sunday school president. Served in the Utah Provo Mission.
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7 thoughts on “Video:Horses and the Book of Mormon”
I wonder what kind of chariots they used, if they’re not what we think they are.. Does he mean, like, smaller?
I don’t think he means anything. He’s just saying they may not be what we think they are. The golden plates didn’t come with illustrations, so we can’t say for sure what they looked. He’s not denying they were in fact as we know chariots; just that there is a possibility they looked different.
Re: #1
What he’s saying is that Book of Mormon critics often use 2 Nephi 12:7 as their source of the chariot argument. The person in the video said that 2 Nephi 12:7 cannot be used in this way. He does not say there are no further instances of “chariot” in the Book of Mormon”.
Also, regarding the link you provided, Lisa. Of the five listed, one is 2 Ne. 12:7; two refer to the same chariot(s), and one is referring to Gentile chariots (i.e. non-BOM chariots). For what it’s worth.
Thanks for the clearifications, Kim.
In addition, Lisa, the video doesn’t forget to mention other references to chariots; it specifically discusses the “chariot” of a Lamanite King.
Two things:
First I was under the impression that when ‘translating’ the plates that Joseph would wait until the correct words formed before his spiritual eyes; keeping his head in the hat until the correct word formed. That being the case, it doesn’t make much sense that he chose the word chariot when the more appropriate word was sled, or skid, or anything else.
Secondly, if the church official stance is that chariots in the BoM are not really chariots, perhaps they may wish to issue errata to their currently published works and update the officially sanctioned pieces of art they regularly commission and endorse.
It may behoove the church to begin to explain how these subtle nuances of word run contrary to the perceived meanings and assumed contexts. Specifically in regard to horses, steel, and chariots.
I noticed that one of those fellows tells how in 2 nephi 12:7 the chariots referred to is meaning only the ones in Isaiah country, but he forgets to mention that there are more references to chariots in the book of mormon.
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?type=words&last=chariots&help=&wo=checked&search=chariots&iw=bm&tx=checked&af=checked&hw=checked&sw=checked&bw=1
I wonder what kind of chariots they used, if they’re not what we think they are.. Does he mean, like, smaller?
I don’t think he means anything. He’s just saying they may not be what we think they are. The golden plates didn’t come with illustrations, so we can’t say for sure what they looked. He’s not denying they were in fact as we know chariots; just that there is a possibility they looked different.
Re: #1
What he’s saying is that Book of Mormon critics often use 2 Nephi 12:7 as their source of the chariot argument. The person in the video said that 2 Nephi 12:7 cannot be used in this way. He does not say there are no further instances of “chariot” in the Book of Mormon”.
Also, regarding the link you provided, Lisa. Of the five listed, one is 2 Ne. 12:7; two refer to the same chariot(s), and one is referring to Gentile chariots (i.e. non-BOM chariots). For what it’s worth.
Thanks for the clearifications, Kim.
In addition, Lisa, the video doesn’t forget to mention other references to chariots; it specifically discusses the “chariot” of a Lamanite King.
Two things:
First I was under the impression that when ‘translating’ the plates that Joseph would wait until the correct words formed before his spiritual eyes; keeping his head in the hat until the correct word formed. That being the case, it doesn’t make much sense that he chose the word chariot when the more appropriate word was sled, or skid, or anything else.
Secondly, if the church official stance is that chariots in the BoM are not really chariots, perhaps they may wish to issue errata to their currently published works and update the officially sanctioned pieces of art they regularly commission and endorse.
It may behoove the church to begin to explain how these subtle nuances of word run contrary to the perceived meanings and assumed contexts. Specifically in regard to horses, steel, and chariots.