I haven’t looked for that letter regarding the top sending out notice to the bishops to not deny temple recommendations to those that partake of decaf…but I will since it has been brought up so much….I get asked about it all of the time when I tell others that I occasionally drink decaf coffee.

Also refer to the Ensign where it is talking about the Caffeine Circle/Cycle…and it included caff. tea, coffee, soda, power drinks….it wasn’t the punctuation that Pres. Hinckley did or didn’t use correctly….I have viewed both of his national talks and clearly he is stating CAFFEINE….look them up and view for yourself.

Bottom line is that I think we all want to be Temple worthy and there follow whatever will make that happen….

If a doc says drink green tea for breast and prostate health….do it…ask your bishopric first if you need to get medicinal approval to partake of it…..

I used to think the way you did, until I came to understand one thing. There are a lot of reasons why people have to struggle with different things in their lives, this is what the Atonement helps us with. We have a very forgiving and loving Father in Haven who understands our strengths and weaknesses. I have PCOS. several years ago I had to make some changes that were vital to allowing me more children and avoiding diabetes or heart disease in the future. I made those changes and have to continue choosing to make those choices.

I know others who have to do the same thing. But I have learned not to judge them on their journey because I do not know the reasons why they are not ready, nor is it my place to even speculate. When people come to me for counseling in nutrition, I share. I make choices for my children to help them make healthy choices now and in the future.

The W of W is adapted to the weakest of the weak, for a reason. The Lord knows His children, we don’t.

My issue is seeing so many obese members that really are not following the W of W as far as eating healthy foods. I know that this is not how Heavenly Father intended things to be….members not getting exercise or overindulging on foods they should eat in moderation and to the result of causing serious health consequences. It just really seems hypocritical to me to follow all of our faith and totally ignore one area so obviously.

I do see a lot of the younger mothers trying harder to make sure there kids start out eating healthy foods and keeping them away from the bad stuff before they get hooked on it.

A gentleman in the cannery once told me that if the W of W included all caffeine or chocolate or sugar….that there would be no members.

Yes, I don’t mean there won’t be ongoing prophecy. Of course there will, but we received the Word of Wisdom already and the Lord does want us to research for ourselves and not rely on Him for every tiny detail.

Floyd, you do realise I was speaking tongue in cheek, don’t you? :) I think refined sugar is crap but I don’t think it should be part of the w of w. I really honestly think we have enough in the W of W and don’t need to have every tiny detail spelled out.

I do feel strongly about the no dairy thing and tell as many people as I can. This comes from not only my research, but the advice of two regular doctors, breast surgeon, oncologist, radiation oncologist and my GI doc. I think with that many professionals and all the research saying that hormones in dairy and the casein protein in it and the fact that it does cause cancer….well it is something I have to share.

I do try to keep my opinions to myself when at church, since there as so many members not following the W of W….and don’t want to be judged. I am surprised at the diseases caused by improper diets of members. I am praying for them and trying so hard not to pass judgment.

we don’t need anything added to the Word of Wisdom as it gives us all we need. I would love it if members would accept how bad refined sugar is :) But we don’t need to be commanded in all things. Common sense and ongoing learning and research help us define what we need to do. Even as a NCP I don’t tell anyone they have to stop eating certain foods, I give them the information and hope they will follow up with it for their own sakes.

I am trying to follow the W of W to the letter actually. I blame my lack of knowing what I was truly eating for my getting cancer. All my doctors acted like we all should just know that dairy and hormones in meats are bad for us….