Comments on: Deacons as sources of scripture https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:59:18 +0000 hourly 1 By: Pew Sitter https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/comment-page-1/#comment-41441 Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:59:18 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/#comment-41441 t think so. I mean, what did he really have to say? He was pretty vanilla as far as presidents go…"</p> <p>Hinckley was the 1st President to deal with the consequences of the internet. Agreeing that the 1st Gulf War was prophecy regarding the last days will most likely be the last time any Prophet will say controversial things without prior approval.</p> <p>rick said: "I can’t even count the number of times he said,”I don’t know”. That in and of itself makes for a non-confrontational term in office."</p> <p>When I heard him say on the Larry King show that he did not know made me wonder - If the PROPHET does not know then who would - I had forgotten that the Bishop knows all, the 1st counselor sees all and the 2nd counselor speaks all, and as a group they know more about church policy then the PROPHET would ever admit to on national TV.</p> ]]> rick said: “I don’t think so. I mean, what did he really have to say? He was pretty vanilla as far as presidents go…”

Hinckley was the 1st President to deal with the consequences of the internet. Agreeing that the 1st Gulf War was prophecy regarding the last days will most likely be the last time any Prophet will say controversial things without prior approval.

rick said: “I can’t even count the number of times he said,”I don’t know”. That in and of itself makes for a non-confrontational term in office.”

When I heard him say on the Larry King show that he did not know made me wonder – If the PROPHET does not know then who would – I had forgotten that the Bishop knows all, the 1st counselor sees all and the 2nd counselor speaks all, and as a group they know more about church policy then the PROPHET would ever admit to on national TV.

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By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/comment-page-1/#comment-41419 Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:35:56 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/#comment-41419 “Perhaps 150 years from now there will be people excommunicated for reading and believing Gordon B. Hinckley talks.”

I don’t think so. I mean, what did he really have to say? He was pretty vanilla as far as presidents go…

I can’t even count the number of times he said,”I don’t know”. That in and of itself makes for a non-confrontational term in office.

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By: Brent Hartman https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/comment-page-1/#comment-41409 Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:25:55 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/#comment-41409 That’s true, Pew Sitter. One could find themselves excommunicated just for reading one of Brigham Young’s General Conference talks in sacrament meeting today. Perhaps 150 years from now there will be people excommunicated for reading and believing Gordon B. Hinckley talks.

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By: Pew Sitter https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/comment-page-1/#comment-41337 Sat, 02 Feb 2008 02:47:14 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/#comment-41337 Kim Siever wrote: “Does that mean if a deacon feels the Spirit while giving a talk in Sacrament Meeting, that his words can be considered scripture?”

No way – if a previous prophets words are not considered scripture then a Deacon’s words would not be scripture either.

I suppose everything Pres Hinckley has spoken will be questioned by future Prophets and members.

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By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/comment-page-1/#comment-41279 Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:19:48 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/#comment-41279 I always write out my talks. If I don’t, I end up stumbling for words to say, repeating myself and babbling. Anyone who has seen me teach at the last minute in elders quorum class because the instructor didn’t show up knows this.

Writing my talks gives me time to organize my thoughts, find ways to clearly connect scriptures and quotes, and ensure what I have to say is within the allotted time.

I should clarify that a lot of prayer goes into the talks I prepare.

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By: Jettboy https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/comment-page-1/#comment-41277 Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:09:08 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/#comment-41277 I never write out my talks. What I do constists of making notes on what scriptures I plan to use and quotes. Mostly I put these in order, but that is the extent because I do believe written talks can hinder the spirit.

On the other hand a written sermon can be just as inspired. After all, the scriptures are filled with the written word. However, I think that isn’t true in most cases.

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By: Johnna https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/comment-page-1/#comment-41227 Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:11:15 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/#comment-41227 When I’m hearing a talk, sometimes a specific phrase or idea will just hit me very powerfully, accompanied by the witness of the Holy Spirit.

I sure treat it like it were scripture–I think about it, act on it, consider other things in light of it.

yeah, even if it was a deacon who said it.

However, unless I write the experience down in my journal, I couldn’t say what it was I heard two months later.

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By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/comment-page-1/#comment-41213 Fri, 01 Feb 2008 04:54:08 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/#comment-41213 I’m not. I take solace in the latter part of the quote, hoping I receive inspiration while writing my talks. :)

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By: Brent Hartman https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/comment-page-1/#comment-41212 Fri, 01 Feb 2008 04:45:32 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/#comment-41212 I wouldn’t worry too much, Kim. This was an old doctrine and no longer applies to the Church today. I just thought that these quotes were interesting.

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By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/comment-page-1/#comment-41210 Fri, 01 Feb 2008 04:36:01 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2008/01/31/deacons-as-sources-of-scripture/#comment-41210 Yikes. What does that second-to-last comment say about me?

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