Comments on: Trim American parts of church https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Tue, 26 Jun 2007 06:20:59 +0000 hourly 1 By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/comment-page-1/#comment-30669 Tue, 26 Jun 2007 06:20:59 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/#comment-30669

Will there be a BYU Manila and BYU Sao Paulo? The third world country membership is starved for good educational opportunities.

The Church does operate schools in other countries. A couple I’ve read about in Church publications are in Tonga and in (oh shoot I wish I could remember more specifically) South America somewhere. A member of my ward served at the Tonga school.

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By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/comment-page-1/#comment-30668 Tue, 26 Jun 2007 06:18:15 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/#comment-30668 Nikki, I’m kind of surprised by comment 13. Most of the Church’s buildings are more simple than most of the non-LDS churches I’ve seen.

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By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/comment-page-1/#comment-28242 Tue, 08 May 2007 18:42:22 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/#comment-28242

leave local US politics out of the messages. Who cares if Hinkley [sic] supported the recent attack on Iraq…?

Is there something showing that he did support the attack?

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By: John https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/comment-page-1/#comment-26551 Fri, 06 Apr 2007 03:38:01 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/#comment-26551 Exactly Peter, “local and regional variations in beliefs and doctrine!

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By: Nikki Workman https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/comment-page-1/#comment-26549 Fri, 06 Apr 2007 01:00:41 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/#comment-26549 Over the top fancy church buildings…Solid and simple please!

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By: Peter https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/comment-page-1/#comment-26543 Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:33:10 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/#comment-26543 A recent article in The Economist about the LDS Church opined that Church hadn’t reached the world religion status because it did not yet have local and regional variations in beliefs and doctrine. I would disagree strongly with this operational definition of a world religion. I think a core set of beliefs can be constant worldwide, independent from culture.

With respect to the Word of Wisdom, I think any question on a temple recommend can fairly safely be considered a core belief. And perhaps this is the best guide as to what should constitute the worldwide, universal doctrine of the Church. I enjoyed participating in Boy Scouts and I have pioneer ancestors, but they don’t really matter to the central tenets of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

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By: JM https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/comment-page-1/#comment-26536 Thu, 05 Apr 2007 04:02:04 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/#comment-26536 Which world religion has all it’s members reaching any consensus on a complete understanding of it’s beliefs?

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By: John https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/comment-page-1/#comment-26534 Thu, 05 Apr 2007 01:44:59 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/#comment-26534 How about breaking the entire grand faloon into national and culturally specific beliefs?!

It works for me, and seemingly might appeal to all of you. Since none of you can reach a consensus on any complete understanding of the faith.

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By: JM https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/comment-page-1/#comment-26527 Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:49:18 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/#comment-26527 How does the ‘commandment status’ being new negate the fact that it is now a commandment?

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By: Benjamin https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/comment-page-1/#comment-26524 Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:52:12 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2007/04/03/trim-american-parts-of-church/#comment-26524 Re: #2 JM: Is the WoW really a doctrinal mandate? What does the actual scripture say?

The word of wisdom never was observed as a commandment in the church until the Heber J. Grant administration. Prior to that, it was exactly what the scriptures says it is: advice, that is adaptable to each individual’s personal situations (see D&C 89:2-3). Not only that, but the present official and temple-worthy interpretation of it completely ignores certain aspects of the WoW, such as the admonition to not eat much meat (vv. 12-13) and the WoW explicitly recommends barley-based “mild drinks” in v. 17 (that would be suggesting beer, for the barley-challenged).

The commandment status of the WoW is very new (only in the last 60 years) and completely ignores the entire intent of the revelation as it was given to Joseph Smith.

Why should we be demanding that Chinese and other oriental converts give up their tea to become a follower of Christ? I do not think Jesus cares if Chinese saints drink tea. This is just one example, of course.

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