Comments on: Husbands and Wives HT & VT together https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:30:25 +0000 hourly 1 By: garry https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/comment-page-1/#comment-31221 Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:30:25 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/#comment-31221 m not into 3 hour home teaching visits. No wait a minute. Come to think of it with the people I have she'd have us out of there in a heartbeat. Might work.</p> ]]> Husband/wife home teaching. No way! I’m not into 3 hour home teaching visits. No wait a minute. Come to think of it with the people I have she’d have us out of there in a heartbeat. Might work.

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By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/comment-page-1/#comment-11290 Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:10:02 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/#comment-11290 Another thought came to my mind today. Another good reason for combining the HT/VT programmes is that it would give couples experience in doing spiritual work together, in preparation for a mission later on.

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By: Mary Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/comment-page-1/#comment-11261 Sun, 18 Jun 2006 00:00:26 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/#comment-11261 However, I must say, I will continue to encourage my inactive siblings, if possible. Sometime they may be ready to come back. It’s happened before!

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By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/comment-page-1/#comment-11256 Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:20:51 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/#comment-11256 t rely on active family members to take care of it for them" agreed]]> “if they want their names removed, don’t rely on active family members to take care of it for them”

agreed

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By: Mary Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/comment-page-1/#comment-11254 Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:58:44 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/#comment-11254 d on by well-meaning relatives - err, I mean their extended families often will inform their new wards of their arrival and forward any necessary details as well." Rick, well not always, they just THINK they are. Having a plethora of inactive/non member relatives I can promise you I don't harp on them. And sometimes though, what happens is they contact member families, wanting to know their updated information. If the inactive family members don't want any contact they SHOULD SAY SO TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE. i.e. if they want their names removed, don't rely on active family members to take care of it for them.]]> “It is a well known fact that non/less active members are constantly narc’d on by well-meaning relatives – err, I mean their extended families often will inform their new wards of their arrival and forward any necessary details as well.”

Rick, well not always, they just THINK they are. Having a plethora of inactive/non member relatives I can promise you I don’t harp on them. And sometimes though, what happens is they contact member families, wanting to know their updated information. If the inactive family members don’t want any contact they SHOULD SAY SO TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE. i.e. if they want their names removed, don’t rely on active family members to take care of it for them.

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By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/comment-page-1/#comment-11244 Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:06:01 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/#comment-11244 Sally,

I will hereby do my best to avoid the use of sarcasm, irony, or innuendo when addressing your comments – it’s fairly obvious to me that we don’t communicate well when I do.

I was being sarcastic when I was referring to ‘the lower caste’ of the ward. My entire post was with tongue firmly in cheek. So don’t go worrying about how I’ll be judged in the hereafter – I’ll be burning in hell just like all the non-Catholics.

By the way, I am not LDS or RC or JW or EC or Scientologist or Frisbeetarian or a Jew or … well that’s just getting silly.

Let’s just say I don’t fuss about going to church, shall we?

In regard to when or not new wards get your information when you don’t want them to:

It is a well known fact that non/less active members are constantly narc’d on by well-meaning relatives – err, I mean their extended families often will inform their new wards of their arrival and forward any necessary details as well.

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By: Fiona https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/comment-page-1/#comment-11218 Sat, 17 Jun 2006 02:30:12 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/#comment-11218 In some wards, the home teaching and visiting teaching would never get done. I was once in a branch on the East Coast of the US where NO ONE except the branch president was married!

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By: Mary Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/comment-page-1/#comment-11216 Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:54:37 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/#comment-11216 “What would you have done if they had called you?”

Well since you don’t live in Lethbridge, and I am sure they don’t either, I would have said,”Sorry, too far away, phone your home teacher Bill.”

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By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/comment-page-1/#comment-11215 Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:20:10 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/#comment-11215 “The only way they would be getting a visit and people would know where they lives was if they had told them in the first place.”

Or if their parents phone the new ward clerk.

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By: Sally https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/comment-page-1/#comment-11210 Sat, 17 Jun 2006 00:29:29 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/06/14/husbands-and-wives-ht-vt-together/#comment-11210 “I mean making you associate with the lowest caste of the ward?

…or did you ask to HT the inactives as some sort of a challenge?”

I am going to assume you are just joking when you make a comment like that Rick!!!! First of all I do not hold the priesthood so I am not called as a home teacher per se. My husband assigned himself his route as the HPGL and has asked me to accompany him to some of the families for different reasons. It never occured to me to say no to his requests. I just assumed that the request came from my Father in Heaven through him not because hubby couldn’t get anyone else to go.

As for inactives being lower caste, I have to shake my head in amazement that you would think this. Just for curiosity sake Rick are you a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? I would love to hear your answer to Christ on Judgement Day on why you though some of his people were not deemed worthy enough to get a visit or that they were lower classed citizens.

As for inactives getting bad reactions to members/HTers showing up at their home.. well see it works this way… when you move from a ward to another ward you contact the new Bishop or ward clerk’s office to give them your new address and you do it BEFORE you move so everything is in place. If I was inactive and wanted no contact from HT/VT’ers or missionaries for that fact, I would not be telling a new Bishop I had moved to his ward. Why would I do that? The only way they would be getting a visit and people would know where they lives was if they had told them in the first place.

On a last note when you asked if I had asked to visit inactives or saw it as a challenge, in my patriarchal blessing it states and I quote ” I bless you that in the times ahead when terror is upon the earth, when many hearts shall fail because of the things that happen, that you will have the strenght borne of the spoirt to be a counsel and a guide, to many people, and strenghten your fellow members in the cause of Christ. Lifting up the hands that hang down and strenghtening the feeble knees, that you will be a servant of God in every deed” unquote. So do I see is as a challenge or that I am being punished if I am given inactives to be responsible to? No.. I see it as a great and noble honour

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