Comments on: Chivalry is dead?

By: john scherer

john scherer — Thu, 18 May 2006 19:37:32 +0000

I have always liked to let the person behind me at the grocery store go ahead if they have alot less items than I. The reaction I used to get was a simple polite thanks. Lately people look at me in shock; like I’m from another planet when I do this. I think there has been a general loss in courtesy in society lately and people have come to expect less of others.

By: Sally

Sally — Thu, 18 May 2006 19:23:22 +0000

Steve EM awwww shucks :) Thank you very much…and although coming up to 50 in a short few weeks I will take the compliment but I don’t think that was the case this time lol

By: Sally

Sally — Thu, 18 May 2006 19:21:38 +0000

Kim
“Were all the men who were sitting yesterday free of disability, or were some sitting because of disability? ”

No of course they weren’t. My question was not whether a disabled man should give up their seat for a female but rather why was it that NO male gave up their seat out of courtesy?

There are many times where I am sitting in a disabled seat and an elderly man/woman come on the bus/train and I give up my seat even though I have every right to sit there. I do it out of respect for my elders.

My disability is not obvious unless the person knows me and sees the pain on my face. And I assume there are men out there that have the same situation but to have 2 full buses and an entire train car that I was in not have any males at all give up their seat…well I find it very difficult to believe that they were ALL disabled. Physcially? No… Mentally? Obviously

By: Steve EM

Steve EM — Thu, 18 May 2006 18:48:47 +0000

I suspect you’re a very attractive gal and the men were all “handicapped” and too embarrassed to stand. It was a frequent phenomenon for me from puberty until my late 30s and still happens, albeit less frequently now.

By: Kim Siever

Kim Siever — Thu, 18 May 2006 16:13:58 +0000

“I would not expect a man with a disability to stand and give up his seat for a able bodied female.”

It’s easy to see a man has a disability if he has a cane, but what if he doesn’t have a cane? How could you tell he had a disability? Were all the men who were sitting yesterday free of disability, or were some sitting because of disability?

By: rick

rick — Thu, 18 May 2006 15:14:25 +0000

I’ve got conflicting opinions about this…

On the one hand, if women want equal treatment, this is a direct byproduct. On a clinical analytical level it makes perfect sense for a man to sit while a woman stands – we all being equal and all..

On a personal level, I generally am the ‘dork’ who relinquishes his seat, gets stuck holding the door, gives directions etc.

I guess I have a hard time accepting that we live in a dog eat dog world. I guess as a survival mechanism, we’re all expected to become more impersonal.

I think that, had I been in Sally’s position, I’d.au)20asked someone for a seat. But that’s just me.

By: Sally

Sally — Thu, 18 May 2006 13:14:01 +0000

I would not expect a man with a disability to stand and give up his seat for a able bodied female. My point was able bodied males who did not get up for females out of courtesy.

By: Kim Siever

Kim Siever — Thu, 18 May 2006 03:41:50 +0000

Should a man with a cane stand in order that an able-bodied woman can sit?

By: Mary Siever

Mary Siever — Thu, 18 May 2006 03:25:07 +0000

It’s a me world. But yes, I have seen that in some places, big cities mainly. Here, I see more people who are courteous and thoughtful. I am sorry you had to experience this mum :(