Comments on: What do you fear to be wrong about most? https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:09:54 +0000 hourly 1 By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/comment-page-1/#comment-6428 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:09:54 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/#comment-6428 You’re irrational. ;)

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By: Tracy Y https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/comment-page-1/#comment-6427 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:05:16 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/#comment-6427 s faith. Faith is a principle of action and of power, and by it one can command the elements and/or heal the sick, or influence any number of circumstances when occasion warrants (Jacob 4: 4-7). Even more important, by faith one obtains a remission of sins and eventually can stand in the presence of God. All true faith must be based upon correct knowledge or it cannot produce the desired results. Faith in Jesus Christ is the first principle of the gospel and is more than belief, since true faith always moves its possessor to some kind of physical and mental action; it carries an assurance of the fulfillment of the things hoped for. A lack of faith leads one to despair, which comes because of iniquity. Although faith is a gift, it must be cultured and sought after until it grows from a tiny seed to a great tree. The effects of true faith in Jesus Christ include (1) an actual knowledge that the course of life one is pursuing is acceptable to the Lord (see Heb. 11: 4); (2) a reception of the blessings of the Lord that are available to man in this life; and (3) an assurance of personal salvation in the world to come. These things involve individual and personal testimony, guidance, revelation, and spiritual knowledge. Where there is true faith there are miracles, visions, dreams, healings, and all the gifts of God that he gives to his saints. Jesus pointed out some obstacles to faith in John 5: 44 and John 12: 39-42 (cf. James 1: 6-8). If you're telling me I'm irrational because I have faith, then call me irrational.]]> What decision making is being deferred? If you make every decision based on logic, not heeding any guidance other than the words of men, how would man ever increase in knowledge and improve life?

Here is the definition of faith:

1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. See Synonyms at belief. See Synonyms at trust.
3. Loyalty to a person or thing; allegiance: keeping faith with one’s supporters.
4. often Faith Christianity. The theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God’s will.
5. The body of dogma of a religion: the Muslim faith.
6. A set of principles or beliefs.

And from the LDS Bible dictionary:

Faith is to hope for things which are not seen, but which are true (Heb. 11: 1; Alma 32: 21), and must be centered in Jesus Christ in order to produce salvation. To have faith is to have confidence in something or someone. The Lord has revealed himself and his perfect character, possessing in their fulness all the attributes of love, knowledge, justice, mercy, unchangeableness, power, and every other needful thing, so as to enable the mind of man to place confidence in him without reservation. Faith is kindled by hearing the testimony of those who have faith (Rom. 10: 14-17). Miracles do not produce faith but strong faith is developed by obedience to the gospel of Jesus Christ; in other words, faith comes by righteousness, although miracles often confirm one’s faith.

Faith is a principle of action and of power, and by it one can command the elements and/or heal the sick, or influence any number of circumstances when occasion warrants (Jacob 4: 4-7). Even more important, by faith one obtains a remission of sins and eventually can stand in the presence of God.

All true faith must be based upon correct knowledge or it cannot produce the desired results. Faith in Jesus Christ is the first principle of the gospel and is more than belief, since true faith always moves its possessor to some kind of physical and mental action; it carries an assurance of the fulfillment of the things hoped for. A lack of faith leads one to despair, which comes because of iniquity.

Although faith is a gift, it must be cultured and sought after until it grows from a tiny seed to a great tree. The effects of true faith in Jesus Christ include (1) an actual knowledge that the course of life one is pursuing is acceptable to the Lord (see Heb. 11: 4); (2) a reception of the blessings of the Lord that are available to man in this life; and (3) an assurance of personal salvation in the world to come. These things involve individual and personal testimony, guidance, revelation, and spiritual knowledge. Where there is true faith there are miracles, visions, dreams, healings, and all the gifts of God that he gives to his saints. Jesus pointed out some obstacles to faith in John 5: 44 and John 12: 39-42 (cf. James 1: 6-8).

If you’re telling me I’m irrational because I have faith, then call me irrational.

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By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/comment-page-1/#comment-6421 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:25:25 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/#comment-6421 When one defers the decision making process to an authority figure, rather than applying their own skepticism to a situation, it means that they are allowing themselves to act in a manner than precludes logic.

It is the so-and-so told me to do it scenario (i.e. I was just following orders).

The end-run around logical thinking can be called acting irrationally.

If a person were to say that *nothing* – no fact or observation could sway their view, this also precludes the use of logic and is deemed to be irrational, at least by me.

Better?

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By: Tracy Y https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/comment-page-1/#comment-6344 Sat, 01 Apr 2006 23:31:35 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/#comment-6344 I totally don’t understand what you are saying. Can you explain further?

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By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/comment-page-1/#comment-6341 Sat, 01 Apr 2006 22:04:13 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/#comment-6341 Taking the word of an authority and bypassing the use of your skeptical mind, is indeed a form of irrationality.

So yes, I suppose, it is my interpretation.

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By: Tracy Y https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/comment-page-1/#comment-6335 Sat, 01 Apr 2006 20:11:21 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/#comment-6335 I guess it’s just interpretation then, cuz I view listening to the whisperings of the spirit as one of the greatest forms of reasoning.

And no physical evidence can contradict the whisperings of the spirit, as it’s Divine, whereas physical evidence is of the world.

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By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/comment-page-1/#comment-6334 Sat, 01 Apr 2006 19:56:59 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/#comment-6334 Irrational: Marked by a lack of accord with reason or sound judgment

When one hold to the theory that despite *any* evidence they will choose to believe something not to be true, that’s irrational.

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By: Tracy Y https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/comment-page-1/#comment-6332 Sat, 01 Apr 2006 19:18:20 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/#comment-6332 I don’t understand – what’s irrational about it? I think it all depends on your understanding.

Maybe it could be better explained in that the whisperings of the spirit ARE the proof. Does that make it more rational?

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By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/comment-page-1/#comment-6330 Sat, 01 Apr 2006 19:06:53 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/#comment-6330 “Where my beliefs are concerned any proof, facts or evidence means absolutly nothing. My beliefs are based on the whisperings of the spirit. That supercedes any proof that can be given.”

This is a good example of irrational thought.

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By: Ray https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/comment-page-1/#comment-6251 Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:44:21 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/18/what-do-you-fear-to-be-wrong-about-most/#comment-6251 I have been proven wrong many times in my life, and I am sure it will happen many more times. I hope I have been open minded enough to change when the facts are opened up to me.

The only area in which I have that much invested in is my faith in God.
Where my beliefs are concerned any proof, facts or evidence means absolutly nothing. My beliefs are based on the whisperings of the spirit. That supercedes any proof that can be given.

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