Comments on: Drunk Service https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:48:39 +0000 hourly 1 By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5306 Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:48:39 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/#comment-5306 Exactly.

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By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5303 Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:45:18 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/#comment-5303 Except in reverse, right? You were talking about things that are acceptable in other worship services but not in LDS worship services. Here I’m talking about things that are (unfortunately) acceptable (to some) in LDS services but not in other services.

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By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5301 Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:39:59 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/#comment-5301 That’s a perfect example, ltbugaf, of what I mean.

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By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5289 Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:16:31 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/#comment-5289 Rick, your advice is so sound, I think you’re needed at church. Hope you’ll come.

Interesting that you mention some things are considered OK at other services but not in LDS worship. I know my mother in law was appalled and nearly walked out the first time she entered an LDS chapel, because people were so loud and boisterous. She had been raised in an Episcopalian tradition where you walk into a chapel, pull out the bench and pray in silence until the service starts. I’m on her side. I try not have my pre-Sacrament meeting conversations in the chapel, but take them outside. However, in my current ward, I don’t seem to be influencing others much on this point.

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By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5288 Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:59:57 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/#comment-5288 Nikki, I think the answer is yes, the place is now not a ‘safe zone’ for the child.

I think the best way to avoid these kinds of disturbances is to basically inform the visitor about how things are done.

Disruptive during sacrament? Escort them to the lobby and they can listen on the speakers.

Disruptive during another part? Have someone take them into the hall and explain how things work.

I think many LDS make too many assuptions about how people act during church. For some outsiders, things which may seem disruptive to the LDS are common practise at other services.

In regard to the drunk: You explain how things are done, and if they’re willing to follow the guidelines, they can stick around; otherwise they ay feel free to leave or be escorted out. Easy.

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By: Nikki Workman https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5276 Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:18:53 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/#comment-5276 Such an interesting situation. But then aren’t there many in church? One I recall…Knowing that a child has been physically abused and more by a parent and knowing that parent is still attending the ward. With a small group of folks rallying behind them…but the child feels only fear at the sight of them…Does that mean church is a new “unsafe” place to be for that child?

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By: Mary Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5103 Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:05:34 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/#comment-5103 Mike,

I agree.

I don’t think there is any way to ensure this doesn’t happen again.

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By: Mike Peterson https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5091 Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:23:49 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/#comment-5091 I was that “disconcerted” teacher mentioned in #11. It can kind of throw you off your game when someone interrupts your lesson by calling out random comments from the back of the room and then walking to the front of the class and starting to drukenly preach on unrelated topics.

Not that I would ever promote the idea that guests should not be welcome in church, but at that moment I was wishing that we could lock the doors at 9:00 and check ID when people come in.

Is there any way to ensure that visitors can freely attend our services while avoiding situations like this?

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By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5076 Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:07:41 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/#comment-5076 No, it was several weeks ago. It was a repeat of yesterday’s scenario.

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By: Mary Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/comment-page-1/#comment-5068 Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:20:22 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/2006/03/12/drunk-service/#comment-5068 oh sorry, ok, last week. didn’t something happen the week before that?

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