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Doubt

Can someone have faith, yet still have doubts? Is doubtless faith the same as knowledge?

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Kim Siever

Queer Mormon poet with radical political views. I have been married 27 years, and we have 6 children. Sunday school president. Served in the Utah Provo Mission.

13 thoughts on “Doubt”

  1. Doubtless faith = knowledge is one of the messages I get from Ether chap. 3.

  2. not really i don’t think. if you mean collectively. one can have faith in certain areas and there are no doubts, but if one has doubts in specific areas they can develop faith in that by having faith in the Lord. at least that’s how i see it.

  3. I agree with Mary. I think the Brother of Jared’s knowledge was perfect in one area and so he no longer needed faith in that area, yet he still needed faith in other areas and undoubtedly had doubts.

  5. Sure. It’s a kind of continuum, as explained in Alma chap 32.

    Desire to believe

  6. That didn’t post right: Let’s try again with different symbols:

    Desire to believe (is less than) hope (is less than) faith (is less than) knowledge.

  7. Everyone has a little more faith in one area than in another. At least I’m pretty sure that applies to everyone.

  8. yep I agree…I have doubts all the time but heck, I believe that I have a pretty strong testimony.

    K.

  9. we would not be human if we did not have doubts. if we had no doubts we would be perfect… and last time I checked I was a long way from there..Do I have faith my Father in Heaven is always there? Yes, Do I have faith that the living prophet will continue to lead me? Yes. Do I doubt my ability to choose the right every single time something comes across my path? Yup..

  10. I think “doubtless faith” is right up against the border of knowledge.

    We don’t have to actually see something in order to have knowledge about it. Page 38 of Gospel Principles talks about pure knowledge or testimony given to us through the Holy Ghost which can be surer and deeper than visible impressions made on the eye and auditory impressions upon ear.

    I once tried to disbelieve or get rid of my testimony of the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith. It lasted about 3 seconds. I couldn’t do it, and I knew I couldn’t do it, because I know.

  11. If there are any concerns about Church doctrine, consider the counsel given by President Gordon B. Hinckley to a large meeting of over 2,000 members in Paris, France, last year. He said: “I plead with you, my brothers and sisters, that if you have any doubt concerning any doctrine of this Church, that you put it to the test. Try it. Live the principle. Get on your knees and pray about it, and God will bless you
    with a knowledge of the truth of this work.”

    If you feel you have been wronged, be ready to forgive. If there is,
    for some reason, an unpleasant memory, let it go. Where necessary,
    talk to your bishop; talk to your stake president.

    To all, but especially to those who some day will be great-grandfathers and great-grandmothers, your eternal blessings and those of your posterity are far more important than any prideful reason which would deny you and so many others of such important blessings. In the Book of Mormon, King Benjamin reminds us: “And moreover, I would desire that ye should consider on the blessed and happy state of those that keep the commandments of God. For behold, they are blessed in all things, both temporal and spiritual; and if they hold out faithful to the end they are received into heaven, that
    thereby they may dwell with God in a state of never-ending happiness”
    (Mosiah 2:41).

  12. Sally, that’s the best thing I’ve seen posted on this ‘blog for some time.

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