Comments on: Stephen Harper and the real world https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/13/stephen-harper-and-the-real-world/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Tue, 30 Nov -001 00:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/13/stephen-harper-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2593 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=342#comment-2593 I’d just prefer it if I could keep my money, rather than be disappointed when it doesn’t come back to me through the government.

As far as being afraid of him becoming PM, I can’t say I’m really happy about any of the big three getting into office.

I guess it’s the Rhino party for me…again.

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By: Mary Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/13/stephen-harper-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2594 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=342#comment-2594 I would prefer that too.

I agree, I am not happy with any of the three either, right now looking at CAP and Green.

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By: Sally https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/13/stephen-harper-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2595 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=342#comment-2595 well that tax break will do wonders for Curt and Lareta for Britnee who LOVED to play sports but they can’t sfford to put her in it.. on the other hand they have 1 in band which is costly for equipment, and another one that loves art and is always on one project or another and another one who doesn’t like anything like that. He just likes to be with mom. So what do they do? Allow one child freedom to be in organized sports but not the others? Oh yeah.. they will be running to the polls to vote him for sure :)

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By: Larry https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/13/stephen-harper-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2596 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=342#comment-2596 Mary, your point about a life other than sports is correct.
Remember, though, that it is offered as a tax credit, not a deduction, and therefore really has limited benefit. It does, however, put the differences between the Liberals and Conservatives in perspective.
I’m not sure why you are so violently opposed to Harper. What is wrong with giving money back to the parents of all children, as opposed to giving it to bureaucrats to dole out to day care centres that would benefit only working mothers, as the Liberal policy would have it.
I’m confused why you are so scared of a man who really understands economics and government, and is forced to come out with policies that even he doesn’t like, because we live in a country that is so socialistic that common sense ideas won’t fly.

As for Rick’s idea that it would be better not to be taxed to death and allowed to keep our money . . . bang on.
But that is against Liberal party philosophy. Stephen Harper would be right on side with Rick and me on that one. . . but then that would make him dangerous – right.

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By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/13/stephen-harper-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2597 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=342#comment-2597 This type of biased policy-making is not new, though.

Shall we look at the discrimination in regard to work-at-home vs. two career families?

I like the idea of voting Green, if for no other reason than when I tell people at work they assume I’m some sort of hippy love-child pot smoking Suzuki worshipper.

I’ve been called worse.

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By: kris https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/13/stephen-harper-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2598 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=342#comment-2598 Mary,

Don’t worry — Ontario will never go Conservative with Harper at the helm. Like it or not, right now the results kind of hinge on its vote. And for the record … I’m voting Green :)

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By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/13/stephen-harper-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2599 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=342#comment-2599 If someone’s going to give me money, I’d rather they cut my taxes and no simply give me a dole out.

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By: Mary Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/13/stephen-harper-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2600 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=342#comment-2600 Larry

I am not only against Harper. I think that the government as a whole has difficulty understanding the needs of Canadians. I do know how the deduction works, but it is the inequality of it that bothers me. I agree with one point that Harper makes, and that is that parents know what is best for their children. I don’t agree with the Liberal stance on these issues either. There needs to be a proper middle ground. The Liberals ignore the two-parent, stay at home parent families, and the conservatives ignore the working families. I come from the SAHM perspective on a personal level, however, I have friends and acquaintances who come from the working perspective, out of necessity, and not because they want it to be this way. For example, this new childcare money payout doesn’t address the very real need for proper daycare. I personally don’t use it, don’t want it, don’t need it (daycare). However, I am not the majority, and I see people, for example, in my sister’s position, who, once her maternity leave is up, needs to work. But 1200$ a year per child (they have two) will barely address daycare costs and Stephen Harper wants to cut daycare subsidies and spaces. His 1200$ a year will most definately not make up for that. For me, the 1200$ is fine. The only childcare I need is a babysitter periodically. So maybe Kim and I could go on more dates. But the money doesn’t address the real needs. All these tax incentives are smoke screens. I am against Stephen Harper, but he isn’t the only one I have serious issues with. However, he is the one who is being so vocal about “helping parents out”. Even his 500$ tax exemption does little good, since the people who would actually pay out, initially, for these sports programs, can already afford it. Sure the 500$ will help out, most definitely. But it won’t help the lower income who can’t afford it in the first place. And that includes the so called middle class (as was addressed in a previous post). He seems out of touch…I consider us on the verge of becoming middle class and would be ecstatic to make as much money as he seems to think most Canadians make (70-90 thou a year). This 500$ deduction won’t amount for much, but those who see any tidbit of money as a benefit…well, they might be fooled. I hope most aren’t though.

Mum, I know, I see this as the inequality. The jocks get all the “benefit”, such as it is, and everyone else gets nothing.

Rick, yes I know, this biased based policy making is definitely old hat. I just wish the powers that be would get a clue and stop being such idiots. Every single one of them.

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By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/13/stephen-harper-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2601 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=342#comment-2601 Well Mary, first we kill all the lawyers…

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By: Mary Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/13/stephen-harper-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2602 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=342#comment-2602 yeah, lol

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