Comments on: Becoming Missionaries https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/06/becoming-missionaries/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Tue, 30 Nov -001 00:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/06/becoming-missionaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2757 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=354#comment-2757 “…and tracting is arguably the one thing least likely to help someone become a missionary.”

…or to convert anyone, these days.

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By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/06/becoming-missionaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2758 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=354#comment-2758 “arguably the worst…” Yes, it is arguable. For example, sitting around the apartment all day is even less likely to help.

My wife’s parents were taught and baptized by missionaries who found them while tracting. So were most of the people I taught on my own mission.

The experience of tracting is like most others: You can get out of it what you put into it. It can help you to become a missionary, in the sense that Elder Bednar is discussing, if you let it. It can be done spiritually, humbly and genuinely. It can build the testimony of the missionary as well as those he/she finds.

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By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/06/becoming-missionaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2759 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=354#comment-2759 “My wife’s parents were taught and baptized by missionaries who found them while tracting. So were most of the people I taught on my own mission.”

My parents were taught and baptized by missionaries who were referred to them by members of the Church (as were about a dozen other fmailies on our street). So were most of the people I taught on my own mission.

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By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/06/becoming-missionaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2760 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=354#comment-2760 Kim: I don’t know if you’re trying to make a point by contrasting our mission experiences. If you are, let me know.

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By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/06/becoming-missionaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2761 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=354#comment-2761 The point is that anecdotal evidence establishes nothing. You know people who came to the church because of tracting. I know people who didn’t. That in and of itself does not make tracting good or bad. All such examples illustrate is that persons join the church through different methods.

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By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/06/becoming-missionaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2762 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=354#comment-2762 I wasn’t saying that tracting was the most effective or best method. I was just saying that it can work. It can bring both missionaries and those they teach closer to Christ. It can and does (sometimes) help people to be better missionaries. It’s not the most effective method, but it works. It is far from being “the one thing least likely to help someone become a missionary.”

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By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/06/becoming-missionaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2763 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=354#comment-2763 “It can bring both missionaries and those they teach closer to Christ.”

Will you elaborate on this, please? How does knocking on doors bring missionaries closer to Christ?

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By: Anonymous https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/06/becoming-missionaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2764 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=354#comment-2764 Tracting is done by missionaries, I think, because it is the EASY way out. Wait, please let me explain.

On your mission you are taught that idleness is of the devil and if you’re obedient and work hard, success will come. Well, working hard is one thing, working smart is another. A missionary that tracts his/her entire area is working hard, but not very smart. But because of their “hard work” they feel good, and feel as though they are accomplishing a lot.. I’m not saying tracting is easy–it sucks. But it’s the best (easiest) way to APPEAR as though you are working as hard as possible.

It’s hard for many missionaries to sit down with a member, build a relationship with them, and (gulp) ask for references. The first thing I did when I got to any area, was I went to every single members’ home to introduce myself and get to know them. Most “righteous” missionaries would see this as wasting time, but I knew what I was doing.

Another problem is that most missionaries aren’t taught how to do this effectively.

I only went tracting a handful of times on my mission and did baptize an entire family (my only tracting baptisms). But finding them was more of the inspired “GO KNOCK ON THAT DOOR!” type. It was not a random coincidence.

I absolutely do not believe in knocking on doors, though it is necessary in many areas where members are scarce or useless.

Tim J.

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By: Mary Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/06/becoming-missionaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2765 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=354#comment-2765 Of course tracting can work, but I don’t think it is as effective as other methods and it takes up a LOT of time. Perhaps inspirational tracting would be more effective, aas I have seen that work before.

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By: rick https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/12/06/becoming-missionaries/comment-page-1/#comment-2766 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=354#comment-2766 The question here is how you’re defining ‘effective’.

Is it only effective if they baptise someone?

What if all they do is help someone and then the person decides not to be baptised?

Was that time wasted?

If they weren’t mishies, you’d probably say no…but they are so their MP says they could be doing more ‘effective’ things.

…to get more baptisms.

Body counts are inherently un-christlike.

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