Comments on: Nature https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/28/nature/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:14:30 +0000 hourly 1 By: Our Thoughts » Blog Archive » Top Ten Posts of 2005 https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/28/nature/comment-page-1/#comment-2964 Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:14:30 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=296#comment-2964 […] Nature – 44 comments […]

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By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/28/nature/comment-page-1/#comment-1906 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=296#comment-1906 Yes, we all have tendencies in varying degrees to sin in various ways, some of which tendencies appear to be inborn. On the other hand, we don’t know as a final matter whether some temptations are biologically inborn or not.

Although you haven’t said so, I suspect your instructor was discussing those who claim to have inborn homosexual tendencies. Whereas I believe that some people are born with this tendency to sin, your instructor apparently does not. Neither of us has a truly unassailable doctrinal or scientific foundation for that belief.

Though your instructor may be right or wrong with regard to people being born with certain tendencies, I think he is right when he says that people have a choice. That is, they have a choice about what to do with their temptations–unless their agency has been severely eroded by some factor. Does having an inborn tendency to sin erode agency? I suppose it depends on the nature and strength of the tendency.

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By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/28/nature/comment-page-1/#comment-1907 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=296#comment-1907 Oh good grief. I really need to improve my reading skills. Obviously you DO say that he was talking about homosexuality. Sorry.

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By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/28/nature/comment-page-1/#comment-1908 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=296#comment-1908 Another example: I seem to have been born argumentative. I don’t seem to be doing much to control that tendency. :)

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By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/28/nature/comment-page-1/#comment-1909 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=296#comment-1909 As long as I’m being verbose…

(See, there’s another bad quality of mine that may or may not be inborn.)

In a previous thread, some said they were praying for a revelation that states homosexual acts are no longer sinful. My question is: Is anyone planning to pray for other favorite sins to be taken off the list? Should we pray for a revelation that says stealing is no longer wrong, so the Church can stop persecuting kleptomaniacs? Should we pray for a revelation that adultery is no longer sinful so that those who want to indulge their natural desires can stop feeling so guilty?

Hope this isn’t too far off topic. If so, just ignore me.

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By: Mark https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/28/nature/comment-page-1/#comment-1910 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=296#comment-1910 I’ve done a lot of thinking about this one, and thinking usually leads to blogging… http://moboy.blogspot.com/2005/11/yu-gi-oh-destiny-and-judgment-day-from.html

:-)

MRKH

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By: Ian https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/28/nature/comment-page-1/#comment-1911 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=296#comment-1911 I agree completely with you Kim. I beleive that people can be born with a predisposition to desire to commit sin. I see no reason why this is against the lords plan. It is entirely possible that it’s part of his plan.

There are those who acquire that predisposition later. I don’t think it matters who falls into what category. The bottom line is that, like you said, we are to overcome the natural man.

Sin is sin is sin is sin. If you know what I mean.

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By: Jeff Milner https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/28/nature/comment-page-1/#comment-1912 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=296#comment-1912 The CBC just ran a little segment on the weekend that indicates some scientific foundation for homosexuality as an inherited trait. I’ll see if I can find a link to the podcast…

Quirks and Quarks: Searching for a “Gay Gene”

What Members of the church who try to justify the sin because it is natural need to remember, as Kim pointed out, the church considers “natural man” an enemy to God.

Then again heterosexuality seems pretty natural to me. It just occurred to me, I better not say that too loudly.

But seriously though, homosexuality to me doesn’t seem like a real sin (as compared to adultery, murder, theft, etc) since it doesn’t usually hurt anybody. But we obviously can’t just go around basing sins on that criteria now … can we?

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By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/28/nature/comment-page-1/#comment-1913 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=296#comment-1913 Jeff: It really depends on how you define “hurt.” There is, at the least, some spiritual harm wrought by all sins.

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By: Jeff Milner https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/28/nature/comment-page-1/#comment-1914 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=296#comment-1914 Can’t there be spiritual harm in something that is not a sin too?

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