Comments on: Anti-Gay https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/17/anti-gay/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:38:57 +0000 hourly 1 By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/17/anti-gay/comment-page-3/#comment-17567 Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:38:57 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=307#comment-17567 You’ve never said the name “Bill” was an insult. You used it yourself. I’ve never thought it was demeaning. What’s wrong with it?

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By: George https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/17/anti-gay/comment-page-3/#comment-17527 Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:27:15 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=307#comment-17527 You are still trying to have it both ways. Benson was not the prophet when he gave the speech you mentioned. Those words were his thoughts and not church doctrine. Church traditions would be a better term and we know that traditions are often wrong.

Using your example then whatever the prophet says would be scripture even the wrong stuff that has been mentioned. If you can prove your point using church doctrine, then we would have something to talk about.

Why do you feel it is necesary to continue to try and insult me by using the name Bill? I agreed to quit calling you school boy.

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By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/17/anti-gay/comment-page-3/#comment-17523 Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:54:45 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=307#comment-17523 Bill/George, I recommend you read the words of Ezra Taft Benson in his talk “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet” delivered at Brigham Young University in February 1980.

Particularly, I draw attention to President Benson’s sixth fundamental: “The prophet does not have to say ‘Thus saith the Lord’ to give us scripture.”

I hope you’ll find the full text helpful and informative at the following link: http://www.lds-mormon.com/fourteen.shtml

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By: George https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/17/anti-gay/comment-page-3/#comment-17519 Fri, 17 Nov 2006 04:20:46 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=307#comment-17519 I must disagree with you on that one. How many topics have been discussed here where the way out for bad church “traditions” (Polygamy, Curse of Cain, Coca Cola, etc) was to claim the Prophet was speaking as a man and not as the Prophet? You cannot have it both ways. Either he always speaks as the Prophet or only when he says something like thus saith the lord.

I doubt the Lord hates Gays as much as religious people claim he does.

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By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/17/anti-gay/comment-page-3/#comment-17515 Fri, 17 Nov 2006 02:05:33 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=307#comment-17515 Bill, as you ought to know, there’s absolutely no reason the Prophet has to say “Thus saith the Lord” when prefacing an announcement of the Lord’s will.

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By: George https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/17/anti-gay/comment-page-3/#comment-17495 Thu, 16 Nov 2006 05:33:58 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=307#comment-17495 When would you know if the Prophet is speaking for the Lord or just giving his own thoughts on a subject?

Perhaps the Lord feels different about Gays than the Prophet or church traditions do.

Where is the “Thus sayith the Lord”

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By: Amaru https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/17/anti-gay/comment-page-3/#comment-17485 Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:03:46 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=307#comment-17485 I personally think that if a mother and a father, a heterosexual couple, dont ahve love in their home and dont respect each other, the god head is going to have much more to sya than if a homosexual couple ahve have love in their home and respect each other.im not exactly çanswering your question but i htink its somehting we shoudl take into consideration.

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By: Winterlynx https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/17/anti-gay/comment-page-2/#comment-11534 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:25:14 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=307#comment-11534 It’s important to put our questions in the right order, I would suggest. First things first. Do we have a genuine prophet at the head of the Church who speaks the mind of God? If yes – then when he speaks in that capacity he speaks the truth (regardless of how we or the rest of society thinks about it). If no – then I suppose a person shouldn’t be too concerned with any particular thing he says.

This doesn’t dodge the question – it places it in the proper context. If you really believe President Hinckley is a real prophet – then there is no argument. If an argument persists, then it seems to me that a person hasn’t fully accepted that he is a bona-fide prophet.

What about Brigham Young and the blacks? Brigham Young spoke his own mind (not in the capacity of prophet) on many occasions. Likewise President Hinckley. But the question of the gay-life style is clearly not one of those occasions.

The question then becomes not one of whether the Church should be accepting of the gay-life style, but whether President Hinckley is indeed a prophet of God. That’s how I must settle the question – without that, I don’t know how to settle this one.

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By: Our Thoughts » Blog Archive » Top Ten Posts of 2005 https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/17/anti-gay/comment-page-2/#comment-10021 Mon, 29 May 2006 02:14:37 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=307#comment-10021 […] Anti-Gay – 95 comments […]

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By: Ray https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/17/anti-gay/comment-page-2/#comment-6417 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:43:51 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=307#comment-6417 What I am going to say here is very personal but I hope it will help someone. If you have read my other posts you know that I was a abuse victim. I was molested when I was 8 and again when I was 9. I was physically abused for many years. I would got to school black and blue from beatings. I spent most of my life trying to repent, but not fully being able to get the thoughts and temptations out of my mind. I started masterbating when I was 9. I have been fighting temptations about sex ever since then.( I am over 45 now) I have been through a yoyo of repentance and sin. Each time was sincere. Each time I really wanted to stop. It wasn’t until I put Christ at the head of my life and really put my life in his hands that I was able to really lose the past. Being tempted to sin is not a sin. Christ was tempted, yet he gave no heed unto it. We can, if we endure and are faithfull, feel peace in our hearts no matter what sin we are guilty of.

Christ Suffered in gethsemane for all of our sins. Anyone who continues to commit the same sin might have underlying issues to deal with. I am noo one to judge them or anyone else. My reasons here are simple; We can all feel peace in our hearts and happiness in our lives.

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