Comments on: Sacrament Prayers https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/09/sacrament-prayers/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Fri, 19 Nov 2010 05:34:05 +0000 hourly 1 By: Patricia https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/09/sacrament-prayers/comment-page-1/#comment-140731 Fri, 19 Nov 2010 05:34:05 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=321#comment-140731 This is from the new handbook

18.5 Prayers in Church Meetings
Men and women may offer both opening and closing prayers in Church meetings.

Prayers should be brief, simple, and spoken as directed by the Spirit. All members are encouraged to respond with an audible amen at the end of a prayer.

Members should express respect for Heavenly Father by using the special language of prayer that is appropriate for the language they are speaking. The language of prayer has different forms in different languages. In some languages, the intimate or familiar words are used only in addressing family and very close friends. Other languages have forms of address that express great respect. The principle, however, is the same: members should pray in words that speakers of the language associate with love, respect, reverence, and closeness. In English, for example, members should use the pronouns Thee, Thy, Thine, and Thou when addressing Heavenly Father.

Members of the bishopric should avoid the pattern of having a husband and wife pray in the same meeting. Such a pattern might convey an unintentional message of exclusion to those who are single. Members who are not often called upon should be included among those who are invited to pray. As needed, a member of the bishopric may caution those who pray not to sermonize or pray at great length.

The person who offers a prayer should not be asked to read a scripture aloud before the prayer.

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By: Chris https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/09/sacrament-prayers/comment-page-1/#comment-137928 Sun, 31 Oct 2010 04:52:58 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=321#comment-137928 It does require a priesthood holder to open a sacrament meeting. He who PRESIDES must be MP if one is available. He who CONDUCTS (can be same man) is the one who OPENS the meeting and must be a priesthood holder – MP if available. The member who prays is not opening the meeeting, but is inviting the Spirit. The requirement is for membership in good standing, and a sister can qualify. The Lord will hardly deny one of his daughters inviting the Spirit to the Sunday service they are commanded to attend.

Reason for priesthood holder? Simple You cna’t bless and pass the SACRAMENT without at least a priest. If you cannot have the sacrament, then it is not a sacrament meeting.

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By: Patricia https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/09/sacrament-prayers/comment-page-1/#comment-131046 Thu, 27 May 2010 19:44:28 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=321#comment-131046 I too have had this same experience with prayers in our ward. Bishop said it was only priesthood who gave opening and sisters gave closing. Our stake president confirmed this as he had been told by an area authority that Sacrament was a prisethood meeting and needed to be opened by a priesthood..
In many areas across the US and canada this is not followed and is not in the general handbook.No one seems to be able to say where it comes from a tradition from the pioneer days??

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By: L.Curtis https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/09/sacrament-prayers/comment-page-1/#comment-129340 Sun, 11 Apr 2010 04:38:51 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=321#comment-129340 Here is a great article on how a Sacrament Meeting is to be conducted:

http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=444c66dfc311c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD

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By: Anonymous https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/09/sacrament-prayers/comment-page-1/#comment-110241 Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:58:31 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=321#comment-110241 t Worthy to Open Meetings</a></p> <p>Wow, how I wish we could get rid of this dumb little artifact.</p> ]]> Just found this article through the recent T&S post on the topic. I’ve linked to it from my article on the same topic:

The Prayer Thing: Why Women Aren’t Worthy to Open Meetings

Wow, how I wish we could get rid of this dumb little artifact.

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By: By Common Consent » Not Letting Women Open Sacrament Meeting Redux https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/09/sacrament-prayers/comment-page-1/#comment-50589 Tue, 06 May 2008 02:57:32 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=321#comment-50589 […] realize this is an old subject; see for instance this prior discussion. For those who have been living in a cave, starting I believe in 1967, women were not allowed to […]

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By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/09/sacrament-prayers/comment-page-1/#comment-36305 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 05:13:42 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=321#comment-36305 I think I understand what you’re saying but I don’t see what it has to do with what’s been discussed above.

All I’ve said is this:

There are two possibilities:

  1. Maybe the bishop has a valid reason to want a Priesthood holder to open the meeting.

  2. On the other hand, maybe he just thinks he’s supposed to do it that way–in other words, maybe he’s slightly misinformed about the rules and procedures he’s supposed to follow and is making the kind of mistake that is typical of human beings (which, as far as I know, all bishops are).

I think both are possible. I don’t see why you think the first option isn’t. You can’t think of what the reason might be; that doesn’t mean there can’t be one.

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By: Mary Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/09/sacrament-prayers/comment-page-1/#comment-36238 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:18:47 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=321#comment-36238 If he or she is allowed to pray publicly (whether they are under probation or not). That’s what it has to do with knowing ahead of time if they can or not.

I have heard the term snit used in reference to children, not adults.

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By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/09/sacrament-prayers/comment-page-1/#comment-36202 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:16:33 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=321#comment-36202

If it was inspiration they would know ahead of time if the person was allowed to offer a prayer or not.

I don’t think I understand you. We’re talking about a bishop deciding that a Priesthood holder should or should not be the one to offer the opening prayers in a particular ward during a particular period of time. What does it have to do with knowing ahead of time?

I am not getting in a snit.

If you’d like to argue about that, then I suggest you find someone who has said you are getting in a snit.

And honestly, what a thing to say. I have never heard of a man accused of getting into a snit, only a woman.

I have heard it used with regard to both sexes. However, I can’t see what relevance that has to this discussion, because I know of no instance of anyone ever accusing you of getting in a snit.

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By: Mary Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/11/09/sacrament-prayers/comment-page-1/#comment-36159 Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:11:59 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=321#comment-36159 There seem to be a lot of particular cases. If it was inspiration they would know ahead of time if the person was allowed to offer a prayer or not.

I am not getting in a snit. And honestly, what a thing to say. I have never heard of a man accused of getting into a snit, only a woman.

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