Comments on: Moral Dilemma at School

By: NFlanders

NFlanders — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Whoa. I would definitely counsel AGAINST trying to teach the teacher, especially things that may not be true.

First of all, I'm pretty sure that horses in the BoM is far from a settled issue. Some believe that it refers to native animals that Joseph called "horses" for lack of a better word. At any rate, there is no historical evidence for pre-Columbian horses, and this is a history test, not a religious test.

Secondly, most FARMS scholars believe in a limited geography model for the BoM. Even if the Nephites had horses (a big if) they had certainly all died out way before the Spanish came. So when the Spanish brought horses, it had a huge impact on the New World.

There is no reason to martyr one's grades for erroneous conceptions of our religion.

By: ltbugaf

ltbugaf — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

If the child feels strongly about taking a stand, I encourage him to take a stand and still get points on the exam, in the following manner:

“For reasons not covered in the course, I do not believe that horses were first introduced to America by Europeans. However, it is clear that horses became much more widespread after Europeans came. The increase in horses among the aboriginal inhabitants had the following effects…”

By: john scherer

john scherer — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I may be wrong, but in schooling experiences, I think that if the ideas she presents are well crafted and researched she will do well. The professor may be excited to see an original viewpoint, and not just recycled text book material. Then again, the professor may be stubborn or anti-religious if he sees the correlation to the Book of Mormon, which would affect her negatively.
Then again, I studied Engineering and jut wanted to get through liberal arts courses. I’m not proud of it, but I generally gave professor’s in English and History what they wanted in order to concentrate on work related to my profession. If I were an English or History major, i may have felt differently about this.

By: Last Lemming

Last Lemming — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I’m with Ned.

By: Sally

Sally — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I have always taught my kids to take a stand for what they believed in (had one son in high school suspended for this for 6 days until the school realized he was right and reintstated him). As long as you have facts to back you up… stand up for it.

By: Kim Siever

Kim Siever — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I agree with Ned. I would not want my child to try to prove the teacher wrong on a historical not using a religious text as a source.

By: Bryce

Bryce — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Play by the rules of the class. If you can’t provide acceptable documentation for your claims in a history class, you shouldn’t make the claim. As much as I like the Book of Mormon and believe it to be true, I would never cite it it as history in an academic setting.

I would be careful about calling what’s in this particular history book “obvious lies”. While there are plenty of history books with questionable information masquerading as fact, there’s no reason to suppose that historians claiming that horses came to the New World via the Spanish are doing so in bad faith.

By: nermalcat

nermalcat — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

OK, to address the issue of this type of moral dilemma in general; certainly one should not make false claims to agree with something. However you shouldn't be required in a classroom setting to make the statement(nor need it be presumed) that you personally agree or disagree with anything at all.

Certainly it could be appropriate to challenge something if you can back it up using acceptable academic standards. And certainly there may be an obligation to be confrontational when situations involving non-academic moral issues arises (such as discrimination, slander and offensive non-academic opinions)

But in the absence of these exceptions, your only obligation in this academic environment is to show that you have been paying attention to and comprehend the material in the curriculum.

Therefore, you could just precede everything you say with "according to...[insert this or that textbook or historian]".

If you truly take issue with something, I think you can very breifly and tactfully clarify that you maintain a different view for personal reasons, but then respectfully proceed to present what other academics have concluded in their research or studies.

By: Sally

Sally — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

so are you saying that you should follow the crowd just because the teacher said so? Even if you have proof that they are wrong? What on earth is that teaching our children? You are supposed to be quiet??

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Maybe she could slip the teacher a pass-along card and a Book of Mormon instead of writing the exam.