Comments on: Male Defenses https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/27/male-defenses/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:04:40 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymous https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/27/male-defenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1191 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=228#comment-1191 personally i have been saddened by what i have been reading too. i have never heard of men not being allowed to teach primary alone, i am in utah too, but i remember primary teachers who were male teaching without their wives.

i do wonder if this has changed, but if it has it is truly sad.

as far as why guys aren’t dating, this much i can tell you because i too married older, and i have many male and female friends who are still not married and are in their 30’s, and not dating.

there are a few things going on, one is just that it is more appealing to get married older in life and be able to experience school, travel, ect… it is better for many reasons, the most obvious is that you may actually be able to afford to live as a married couple if you aren’t married right out of high school.

the other thing i can see going on is that men don’t have to ask girls out anymore. a lot of people just hang out, and end up in relationships. a lot of girls will ask out the boys instead. it’s laziness.

and then there are those who just aren’t there socially. i hate to say it about my male friends, but they aren’t getting dates, and won’t be able to get married because of their personalities and the veiws they have about relationships. where did they learn it? who knows. but they are very self centered, and that just doesn’t work in a relationship. and as for the female friends, it goes back to my male friends… they like to date young girls, not those their own age.

anyway, maybe it’s time for a “menimist” movement.

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By: Larry Bates https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/27/male-defenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1192 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=228#comment-1192 Menimist movement…I like it. Sounds……..

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By: Aimee "Roo" https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/27/male-defenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1193 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=228#comment-1193 i second the menimist movement! i am tired of seeing the good men of the world getting crap piled upon them for no reason other than being male.

that is why i think men don’t always try to do much, what would be the point if they know that they are just going to be put down in someway regardless. for instance, dating or not dating. i hear girls complain that men don’t ask out, and i hear them complain about guys that ask out everyone… it seems to be a lose lose situation.

so come on men, start the menimist movement and prove to us ladies that we have been wrong all this time afterall. :)

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By: Mary Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/27/male-defenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1194 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=228#comment-1194 I second this as well. Men do get a crap treatment and I think it’s wrong. There are good men and not so good men, there are good women and not so good women and they is just because we are all human.

Maybe the answers lie in our expectations. OUr expectations of ourselves and each other need to rise.

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By: Scooby https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/27/male-defenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1195 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=228#comment-1195 I totally agree!

Whats even more shocking (if thats possible) is when a mother runs off with her child – leaving behind a father that desperatly wants to be a part of his childs life. When this happened to my DH with his ex wife (squishy is with us finally after 6 years of searching!) and his daughter was just 3 months old, he was treated by the police and the courts like a man who wanted his daughter for, shall we say, “unnatural reasons”.

There was no assistance offered to him to find his child because, as they said “she is with her mother” – assuming that the mom is a good, healthy and non abusive parent which she was not. We finally found her ourselves and were only able to get her listed on Child Find and Missing and Exploited Children AFTER we had found her.

All because he was a man… if it was the other way around you can be sure that the police would have been on the case right away.

It saddens and angers me to no end.

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By: Eric Russell https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/27/male-defenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1196 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=228#comment-1196 t know Larry. You ask some good questions, but the facts remain. Men are much more likely to be perverted, sexually abuse children, commit crimes, be violent, etc. The protection of innocent must be a higher priority than the collective self-esteem of men. It’s a necessary evil brought on by men themselves.]]> I don’t know Larry. You ask some good questions, but the facts remain. Men are much more likely to be perverted, sexually abuse children, commit crimes, be violent, etc. The protection of innocent must be a higher priority than the collective self-esteem of men. It’s a necessary evil brought on by men themselves.

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By: Mary Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/27/male-defenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1197 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=228#comment-1197 One of the most notorious pedophiles in Canada, is a woman.

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By: Larry Bates https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/27/male-defenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1198 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=228#comment-1198 Eric,

Ask Ann Cools, who is a senator. She used to be a strong women’s libber until the facts got in her way.
The fact is that women verbally and physically abuse children to a greater degree than men do.
Women are just as likely as men to resort to violence, though the statistics and studies show that men don’t report it.
The only area where women may be behind men is in the sexual abuse arena, and the stats are starting to move on that one too.
Ultimately we have to acknowledge that these problems are not gender specific.
Our sons and grandsons are going to pay a heavy price because of the labels we have burdened them with. As a consequence, so will our daughters and granddaughters.

This is a propoganda campaign that we have all bought into. Yes, there are a category of men that fall into the most abysmal form of humanity. If the law allowed men to do what men can do best, there would be fewer of these perverts harming our children.
As it is, those who like to demean men are the same ones that refuse to allow us to deal with it effectively.

Think about it.

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By: NFlanders https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/27/male-defenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1199 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=228#comment-1199 Umm, you’re weirding me out, Larry.

When you say, “if the law allowed men to do what men can do best, there would be fewer of these perverts harming our children.”

So you are advocating vigilante justice? For someone who thinks men are so persecuted, it is bizarre to me that you think hurting people is “what men can do best.”

While we can find counter-examples of female sex offenders, let’s face reality. Sex abuse is an overwhelmingly male disease. I don’t see what is accomplished by pretending otherwise.

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By: Larry Bates https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/27/male-defenses/comment-page-1/#comment-1200 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=228#comment-1200 Ned,

I appreciate that the comment to let men do what they do best is a liitle over the top, but I remember my grandfather telling me the story of a man who was abusing his family; a few neighbours got together and took him out behind the woodshed and gave him a whoopin’ that rivaled what he did to his children. Never had a problem again.
The real problem is that we catch and release these abusers and put them right back into our communities. If our civilized system isn’t going to handle this appropriately, then perhaps some form of vigilantism is appropriate.
After all, if mothers find them in their community they immediately try to get them moved. Isn’t that a form of vigilantism?

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