Comments on: Adam as Our Father https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/26/adam-as-our-father/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Mon, 17 Mar 2014 08:33:48 +0000 hourly 1 By: T. Easley https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/26/adam-as-our-father/comment-page-1/#comment-217910 Mon, 17 Mar 2014 08:33:48 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=230#comment-217910 I am not a Mormon, and do surprise myself to be in agreement with one of its prophets or leaders. I like Mr. Young have come to the same conclusion that “our Father which art in Heaven” is none other than the father of the race of Men… ADAM. Truly Adam is the father of us all and when he died at the ripe old age of 930 years old his soul went to heaven. Dominion was given to Adam and then lost to Satan in what we call the fall of man in paradise. It is therefore the job of Adam’s Kinsman redeemer…ABEL, reborn in Christ “conformed”…” together formed” with God the Holy Spirit, to redeem his father and by so doing redeem the entire race of men. Its the only possible way to redeem us all . Redeem Adam and as the federal head of the race redeem us all from his original sin. The multiverse we live in is a big place with billions of universes full of billions of stars and planets…”worlds without end”. Adam, a son of God is therefore a god himself by birth right. A member of the Elohim “the gods”..Since the fall of Man Satan has dominion and is called the god of this world, the prince of the age (of Pisces). at the end of the age Christ will come to redeem his father Adam for he is the second Adam and in the Jubilee year restore the title deed of the earth to its rightful owner. This is what is meant by ” I must be about my fathers business”. Adam is the Father, Abel, born again in Christ is the Son (Son of Man) and the Holy Spirit is God, the Most High and father of Adam. Adam would be therefore be likened to a planetary Diety and subject to his father EL Elyon. What a man must this Mormon prophet Brigham Young must have been to have been shown this. I can no longer lightly dismiss LDS because of this man.and his insights. ADAM is our father and his kingdom is coming again for his dominion is being redeemed by his next of kin The Son of Man in Christ…the Son of Adam…ABEL the good shepherd and the first member of the dead who was the first to be born form the dead to be born again in Christ with the authority and power to accomplish the work of eternal redemption and restore a fallen world to an offended God. Thank god for Brigham Young, few have seen what he has seen and shame on the LDS church for dismissing this man of God.

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By: moA https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/26/adam-as-our-father/comment-page-1/#comment-10563 Tue, 06 Jun 2006 07:06:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=230#comment-10563 ugh, Bill, your Gospel Doctrine class of elder days sounds like a nightmare to me, the inescapable worst of speculative seminary theology. Give me simple. I hate it when people make the gospel more interesting than it actually is.

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By: Winterlynx https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/26/adam-as-our-father/comment-page-1/#comment-10514 Mon, 05 Jun 2006 03:42:43 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=230#comment-10514 Possibilities, Bill. The reason that I subscribe to the Theory of Evolution (and I personally put God into the equation – I have ample reason to do that if the world of science does not) is because of the weight of evidence for the theory. I’ve spent many years studying the theory. In my judgment, the weight of evidence speaks very strongly. But I must empasize that, in my version, God remains at the helm and we are sons and daughters of God in evey important sense. To my mind, the Theory of Evolution does nothing to diminish our contection to God as our Father.

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By: Bill https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/26/adam-as-our-father/comment-page-1/#comment-10499 Mon, 05 Jun 2006 00:15:31 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=230#comment-10499 Years before the simple lessons of today, the Gospel Doctrine Class was often a deep thinking class (at least in my ward) and we discussed many topics. The story of the Da Vinci code was discussed way before any of the current books were written.

One of the topics was the concept that Adam and Eve were not on this planet. This planet (earth) became home to the human race at the time of Noah. Bringham Young’s statement – “I once dwelt upon an earth something like this, in a mortal state. I was faithful. I received my crown and exaltation”… Would this statement lend credence to the Adam-God reference?

Could it be possible that the Ark was a space ship and Noah brought the human race here and Adam could be the God of this World? The OT mentions how the life span of man was shortened with each generation after the Ark landed. Could it be that men on other planets live longer than we do on this one?

The class also discussed if Jesus was the Saviour of this world only or the Saviour of many worlds.

If you become a God and create your own worlds, would you use the existing plan or would it be necessary to build humans from dirt? In other words, would you take a couple from one world and move them to another world to start your own creations? What about animals? Would you move animals from an existing planet to your new world?

Would it be necessary for your creations to have their own Saviour or would our Jesus work for all creations now and in the future?

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By: Winterlynx https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/26/adam-as-our-father/comment-page-1/#comment-10466 Sun, 04 Jun 2006 15:08:48 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=230#comment-10466 One of the primary features of this Church that I find most attractive is the principle of continuing revelation – that is that we can learn more and understand better today than we did yesterday. I love that. Because we have continuing revelation and living prophets, we have the capacity to learn more and understand better.

Joseph Smith brought to the Christian world, indeed to the whole religious world, the principle of continuing revelation. Brigham Young and the early saints who followed him preserved that principle by walking half way across the continent. Now, if we continue to believe in this principle as our pioneer forebearers did, then we have to accept that, over 100 years later, we are going to believe in and understand some things that they didn’t – we are going to grow beyond the point that they were at when they passed the torch to us. This does not dishonour them, but rather honours the heritage of continuing revelation that they blessed us with.

And besides all that, I don’t insist that my prophets be right about everything all the time. It’s okay for me to miss the odd shot – and it’s okay for them too. Let’s cut our Prophets a little slack.

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By: ltbugaf https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/26/adam-as-our-father/comment-page-1/#comment-6247 Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:28:41 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=230#comment-6247 So Jeff, what Prophet do you follow today? (Now that, according to you, the Church has gone astray from the truth and the Presidents, at least since Spencer Kimball, are teaching falsehoods?)

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By: Jeff https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/26/adam-as-our-father/comment-page-1/#comment-6234 Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:56:54 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=230#comment-6234 I am a Latter-day Saint, and I affirm that Brigham Young was a true prophet, and what he taught was correct and was a direct revelation. Adam is our Father and Our God. He was the literal Father of Jesus Christ. It is Him that we Worship and it is Him to whom we pray. It doesn’t matter what anyone thinks on the subject, the Lord has spoken through his Prophet, and to me, that is enough – it is finished. Anyone seeking prophetic statements beyond that is merely wasting the Lord’s time like those seeking a sign.

The fact that most Mormons disagree is just an indicator of lack of faith, perhaps not theirs directly, but those who came before, and paved the road of this teaching’s history with deceptions, half-truths and lies.

Open your eyes and see what the Lord said through his prophet. Do not deny the simple truths apparent in it. Do not try to twist his words like a snake to support those who have spoken ill of God’s holy word.

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By: Dave https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/26/adam-as-our-father/comment-page-1/#comment-1217 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=230#comment-1217 Try checking out what President Joseph Fielding Smith said about this. Go to:
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/adam-jf_smith.htm

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By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/26/adam-as-our-father/comment-page-1/#comment-1220 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=230#comment-1220 “President Kimball did not denounce it for it not being ‘in’ the scriptures, but rather for not be ‘according to’ the scriptures.”

Which is what I meant. I used them synonymously.

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By: Geoff J https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/08/26/adam-as-our-father/comment-page-1/#comment-1221 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=230#comment-1221 I pointed that out because being in the scriptures precludes anything that is not specifically already there. Being according to the scriptures allows for most any doctrine that is not clearly contradicted by canonized scriptures.

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