Comments on: Home Teaching New Converts https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/03/29/home-teaching-new-converts/ Thought-provoking commentary on life, politics, religion and social issues. Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:05:33 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jared https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/03/29/home-teaching-new-converts/comment-page-1/#comment-8373 Thu, 04 May 2006 20:18:16 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=59#comment-8373 I wish that I could have been in on this conversation earlier. I doubt that this message will even be read, however I feel I should put in my two bits.

I have been probably about a 90-95% hometeacher for the past 10 years. I have served as a ward missionary as well as in various Elders quorum presidencies. I am currently the Elders quorum president in my ward.

I think that both of you, Kim and Smiles, have brought up valid points, of which we as an Elders Quorum Presidency and Ward Counsel struggle with on a monthly basis.

As we have tried different options over the years, it seems that the most effective solutions “for us” have been as follows.

First of all, you have to have leaders that are willing to do the work and set the example. Just as, and in many cases more, important to having a good EQ Presidency, the ward mission leader/missionaries can play a critical role in helping to take care of the extremely important visits to new and less active members.

Our Bishop called 10 ward missionaries, of which 5 were extremely active members. He informed them that he has invested more in the ward missionary program than any other organization.

Ward missionaries committed to two days each month in which they could go and help visit new members and families that hometeachers were having a hard time visiting. This information was reported each week to the bishop during ward counsel and in most cases could count as a home/visiting teaching visit.

As an EQ Presidency, we have focused on consistenly starting to do PPI’s monthly,(a program that has, until recently, been non-existent). Of course we don’t try to make it seem like a sit down interview each month. It is more of just a friendly conversation in which we try to get a commitment out of each of the hometeachers to visit their families. During these interviews, we also try to get a feeling for which families would be a little easier for them to visit. It is always easier to make the initial HT visit with someone that you already know, or wouldn’t mind visiting. The handfull, (or less) that faithfully HT each month, and that generally don’t have a difficult time putting themselves in front of new faces, are assigned some of the more difficult families. (In many cases even if the hometeacher can’t get a hold of these, the ward missionaries may have been able to catch them.)

Although this definitely isn’t a perfect solution, our numbers have consistenly gone up. And although many of you say it’s not about the numbers. To me it is. I love looking into an Elders Quorum meeting that has almost doubled in size over the past couple years, in large part due to less-active elders that have recently started coming because of the continuous efforts of the ward.

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By: Russ https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/03/29/home-teaching-new-converts/comment-page-1/#comment-195 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=59#comment-195 My former Bishop totally revamped the home teaching program in our ward. The short of it was that most of us were companions with our wives. We were assigned to families instead of me visiting some families and my wife visiting others. We were told that we only needed to visit active families every other month as long as we called them or talked to them at church each month. The less active and new member families were to be the focus. I still never got my home teaching done, but I thought it was a great idea.

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By: Smiles https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/03/29/home-teaching-new-converts/comment-page-1/#comment-196 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=59#comment-196 there is no reason why home and visiting teaching visits can not be 100% every month. No one is that busy that they can not get out every month. When we lived in Regina I held a full time job, worked 2 part time jobs had 5 kids and a husband who worked out of town 90% of the month. On top of that I had to contend with my companion’s schedule and the times of our sisters we saw.

Home teaching is part of your priesthood repsonsibilities and stewardship. Why couldn’t they get their office of their respective priesthood be put on probabtion if they didn’t get their HT done?

My visiting teacher up till last summer had been mime for over 4 years. She never missed a single month. There were months she had no companion cause she bagged out. But this sister also had a full and a part time job and came to my home at least once a month at many times twice. Each and every week she called me and most months I would get a card in my snail mail from her.

Changing the perspecitve of quality instead of quantity isn’t going to get the numbers up any higher. Our bishop doesn’t even do his HT. The speed of the leader is the speed of the gang.

I have heard SO MANY times from the priesthood in different wands that I have been in, that women can get out to doo their visiting teaching as they aren’t as busy as men are.

Uh huh… sure…

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By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/03/29/home-teaching-new-converts/comment-page-1/#comment-197 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=59#comment-197 “there is no reason why home and visiting teaching visits can not be 100% every month.”

Actually, there is at least one. Some people don’t want home or visiting teachers. Most wards have them and as long as they exist, 100% home teaching isn’t attainable.

“Changing the perspecitve of quality instead of quantity isn’t going to get the numbers up any higher.”

That’s not the point. It’s not about the numbers. It’s about making sure those who need the visits most are receiving them.

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By: Amira https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/03/29/home-teaching-new-converts/comment-page-1/#comment-198 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=59#comment-198 I completely agree, Kim. When we lived in Trenton, New Jersey, we were one of the very few active families in the area. We had faithful HT who came every month. We appreciated it, but we didn’t need it. Most of the inactive families weren’t getting visited, and I would have been happy to have fewer HT visits if those families could have been visited at all.

It wasn’t a matter of being too busy. There simply weren’t enough men in the ward to visit everyone on a regular basis.

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By: Alison https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/03/29/home-teaching-new-converts/comment-page-1/#comment-199 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=59#comment-199 Got to keep everyone in line, breaking down those personal boundaries, checking up on their backsliding; after all, it’s not about an individual’s relationship with God, it’s about keeping that tithing stream coming…don’t you ever wonder what type of organization you’re in?

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By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/03/29/home-teaching-new-converts/comment-page-1/#comment-200 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=59#comment-200 “don’t you ever wonder what type of organization you’re in?”

No. My faith is solid. How’s yours?

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By: Alison https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/03/29/home-teaching-new-converts/comment-page-1/#comment-201 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=59#comment-201 My faith is rock solid that Jesus Christ is the Savior, and that the Church serves itself as an organization, not as an enabler of individual salvation.

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By: Kim Siever https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/03/29/home-teaching-new-converts/comment-page-1/#comment-202 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=59#comment-202 “My faith is rock solid…that the Church serves itself as an organization…”

What an odd thing in which to place one’s faith. Personally, I have placed my faith in Jesus being my Saviour.

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By: Smiles https://www.ourthoughts.ca/2005/03/29/home-teaching-new-converts/comment-page-1/#comment-203 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.ourthoughts.ca/?p=59#comment-203 “Actually, there is at least one. Some people don’t want home or visiting teachers. Most wards have them and as long as they exist, 100% home teaching isn’t attainable”

yes I understand that you can never have 100% as there are those, although very very few, members who do NOT want any contact. But I am talking about 100% of those that are not in that category.

“That’s not the point. It’s not about the numbers. It’s about making sure those who need the visits most are receiving them”

and who gets to decide who needs the visits the most? EQ President? the Bishop? the members themselves? Just because a family or individual is very active does not mean they do not “need” a visit.

For example, there is a family in our ward, have callings. members for long time, very active etc.. she was just put in hospital this week for severe case of anorexia/bulemia and severe depression. It was through a “normal” home teaching visit that one of the home teachers, who happens to work in the medical field, noticed very red lines in her eyes when he went to shake her hand. Combined with a very noticeable weight loss in a short period of time he approached the subject of anorexia. She broke down and admitted what she had been doing to lose 85 pounds in 3 months.

Now if this “choosing” who needs visits the most such as inactives etc was in place, this family would have been left to fend for themselves because to the outside eye this was an active family and they didn’t need a visit. Now would this information about this sister have come out on its own at a later date? Who knows.

But what I do know is if the home teaching program is changed to one of visiting only the needy well all I can say is that would be a very sad day for me.

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