Comments on: Fullness of the Gospel

By: nick

nick — Sat, 22 Jul 2006 09:13:28 +0000

I have a question about mormonism.
Mormons claim that that the Bible is the word of God and can be used as long as it is translated correctly. My question is, is where is it mistranslated. Also two other questions.
1.How does it stand up to the dead sea scrolls because some of the scrolls found were give or take a thousands years older than the oldest scroll that we presently had. they also found with the dead sea scrolls that it was about 95% the same as the copies that we have today. The differences that it has holds no dramatic change in doctrine pr meaning but mainly mispelled words and punctuation problems.
My other question would be what do the schollars say about the translation.

By: Dallas Robbins

Dallas Robbins — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

The fullness of the gospel is not the same as the fullness of all truth. The gospel is the “good news,” the atonement and the ordinances associated with it. A fullness of the gospel is a full understanding and restored truth of the atonement and the ordinances that lead to salvation. All truth is so much, much more. So, I would say the church does not possess all truth and knowledge, it would be hubris and prideful to even think so. But the church does humbly proclaim that it contains a restored knowledge of the atonement and ordinances that can lead everyone to salvation. All truth will come in time once we all learn how to repent, forgive, and serve.

By: J. Stapley

J. Stapley — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I just ran a quick querry on "Fullness of the Gospel". It looks like this was introduced to the collective vocabulary in Utah. The first reference I found was in 1856 and it was not used again untill 1864. After that it was used more frequently.

I kind of wonder if it was adapted from the concept of the "fullness of the priesthood".

By: Kim Siever

Kim Siever — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

"A fullness of the gospel is a full understanding and restored truth of the atonement and the ordinances that lead to salvation."

And given that there are so many writings that have yet to be made available to us and potentially further revelations that have yet to be received, how can we state absolutely that we have a 'full' understanding of the atonement, or that the truth of the atonement is fully restored?

By: John Mansfield

John Mansfield — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

"The Saints were given the Book of Mormon to read before they were given the revelations outlining such great doctrines as the three degrees of glory, celestial marriage, or work for the dead. It came before priesthood quorums and Church organization."

"[T]he Lord Himself has stated that the Book of Mormon contains the 'fulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ.' (D&C 20:9.) That does not mean it contains every teaching, every doctrine ever revealed. Rather, it means that in the Book of Mormon we will find the fulness of those doctrines required for our salvation."

from Ezra Taft Benson's message in the January 1992 Ensign

By: Kim Siever

Kim Siever — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

John,

By using that quote by Pres. Benson, are you suggesting then that none of the temple ordinances are necessary for salvation?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

This has been written about a good bit, since it’s a common evangelical criticism.

See, for example, Noel B. Reynolds ” The Gospel as Taught by Nephite Prophets.” BYUS 31:3 (1991): 31â€“50.

There are multiple references here to other articles on the topic.
http://www.fairlds.org/apol/ai278.html

Ben S.

By: Don

Don — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

to “fudge” on Pres. Benson’s quote, part of the fullness of the gospel that the book of mormon contains is the doctrine of revelation. The gospel contains the basic premise of continuing revelation, so the temple endowment etc. is part of that fullness.

By: Jeffrey D. Giliam

Jeffrey D. Giliam — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I thought that Mormons believed that all truth was contained in the gospel. I don't think really have any right to lay claim to a fulness of either.

To say we have the fulness seems like a somewhat self-righteous motto, more than a declaration of anything.

By: Kim Siever

Kim Siever — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

"part of the fullness of the gospel that the book of mormon contains is the doctrine of revelation."

So, is the gospel about revelation (as Don says) or about the atonement (as Dallas says) or about salvation (as John/ETB says)?